Wheelsets - some advice please
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Pedrosanchezo
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Lol .. seriously if you fancy coming up to London I would be happy to show you round and loan you a bike
See Musa!!! I knew you would ruin this for me............
What could have been.
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Pedrosanchezo
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The issue is usually long descents on carbon rims. Some suggest that clinchers are the worst offenders due to their u shape profile.
The carbon can become very hot under serious braking and delaminate or warp the braking surface. Personally i believe this is more down to poor braking technique but if anyone else can chime in with their thoughts i am all ears. Feathering the brakes during long descents will go a long way to preserving your carbon rims.
FWIW my carbon tubs brake better than my Fulcrum 1's with swisstops. I think durability is the key factor.
all your bikes are small unfortunately
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Carbon rims don't brake too well in the wet - or at least the ones I have don't. If it's wet I will usually switch to wheels with an aluminium brake track...
Mr Haematocrit
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I find the Zipp's brake acceptably in the wet, but I must admit this by no means suggests I think braking in the wet is of a good standard. I think I just know what to expect now with regards to the behaviour the exhibit
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If you are doing a long descent on a carbon rim then you are on the wrong wheels. In the wet also nowhere near the performance of an alloy rim even with the special brake blocks, then when they dry out they can "grab" and be a bit unpredictable. The only time we use tubs with all carbon wheels is on TT's and I think that is a general practice now.
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Why do you believe this is, when climbing and descending I would pick Zipp full carbon firecrests over anything in dry weather, I find that they do not suffer as much with brake fade on long descents as the Carbon fails to retain heat as much as alloy breaking surfaces.
I run full carbon firecrest wheels with carbon braking surfaces every day and have not experienced any 'grab' from them myself.
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Just talking from experience, haven't tried the new Firecrests and maybe they are matched well with their own brake blocks, but still can't believe they are as positive as alloy rims. Then again I could be wrong, I frequently am
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Mr Haematocrit
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Was just curious 
Glad my experiences are different to yours though.
Glad my experiences are different to yours though.
Pedrosanchezo
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Many of the peloton ride full carbon rims over large climbs and descents. I think, if used correctly, they are fine. Ridden hard down long descents everyday though and you would likely find the wheels durability will be shorter. Pro's just swap out for new after each race but then the amateur would not likely be riding 10k descents daily.
As a "now and again" or "nice days wheelset", i think they can be applied to many different variants of cycling. Especially at some of the prices available today.