JasonHolder
on youtube. learning to be a gent
I don't mind loaning you my copy. 4th edition. Pm if you want it.
That said, they're only 20 bucks to buy
What do you think of my training plan?
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That said, they're only 20 bucks to buy
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Peter Armstrong
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I've already acquired the 3rd edition, I will have a read.
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Well I did it, I went and got a cycling coach!
JasonHolder
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Who/how much and what do you get?
Rob3rt
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Yeah spill dem beans, it's not Robert is it
I've had a few people ask but no not me. Not a qualified coach (in cycling, am in running though) and even so, wouldn't coach someone in crit racing as I have never even tried it so wouldn't have any confidence in my ability to advise. I'd just be repeating what I've read, which is not exactly good business
Joshua Plumtree
Approaching perfection from a distance.
Although some people make a decent living by doing exactly that! 
jarlrmai
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What's the best way to work out FTP, is it warm up, 20 mins, warm down of effort as most of the books I'm reading suggest?
For your 1st time if you've never done a 20 minute do you guess and a pace to maintain or pick your best 20 minute power average from a longer ride and add a bit, or is it just one of those things that the more you give it a go the better at pacing it you become?
Is it best to do it on a trainer?
For your 1st time if you've never done a 20 minute do you guess and a pace to maintain or pick your best 20 minute power average from a longer ride and add a bit, or is it just one of those things that the more you give it a go the better at pacing it you become?
Is it best to do it on a trainer?
Rob3rt
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If you want to use the 95% of a 20 minute test rather than testing it with a full, flat out one hour effort, then you should follow the protocol from which that approximation was derived. IIRC, you should warm up, then do 3x1 minute high cadence efforts, then rest, then do a maximal 5 minute effort, rest for 10 mins, then do a 20 minute maximal effort and cool down. You then approximate FTP from the 20 minute effort. Without the 5 minute maximal effort, you will probably over estimate your FTP, then when you try to pace to it later, in a real situation like a 25 mile time trial, you will blow up catastrophically.
You should test it in the context which you usually train. I historically tested mine on the turbo because I trained on the turbo exclusively, if you train mostly on the road, test on the road, train mostly on the turbo, test on the turbo. Just be aware there will most likely be a difference, in most cases, with power being higher on the road than the turbo. I have now managed to close the gap between turbo and road power and have split my training up with more on the road, so I just take my power from a 25 mile time trial.
There are other ways to estimate FTP too, such as from a MAP (maximal aerobic power) test, considering the data my partner got from a map test and what she is able to product on the road, the MAP test over estimated her FTP by a large amount. I've not done a MAP test but it basically involves increasing power every minute, until you blow, I do not see the point in blowing that hard if there is no prize money or pride at stake.
You should test it in the context which you usually train. I historically tested mine on the turbo because I trained on the turbo exclusively, if you train mostly on the road, test on the road, train mostly on the turbo, test on the turbo. Just be aware there will most likely be a difference, in most cases, with power being higher on the road than the turbo. I have now managed to close the gap between turbo and road power and have split my training up with more on the road, so I just take my power from a 25 mile time trial.
There are other ways to estimate FTP too, such as from a MAP (maximal aerobic power) test, considering the data my partner got from a map test and what she is able to product on the road, the MAP test over estimated her FTP by a large amount. I've not done a MAP test but it basically involves increasing power every minute, until you blow, I do not see the point in blowing that hard if there is no prize money or pride at stake.
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Rob3rt
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The RAB's shouldn't really pose a problem, the marshals on the RAB's are not stopping traffic during events, just directing riders, so riding it on your own is not really any different. Plus on your own, you can choose a time that will have minimal traffic if you want. Or find a TT course that isn't an out and back i.e. a circuit and ride round that.
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I did a FPT test on the Saturday
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JasonHolder
on youtube. learning to be a gent
How old are you? Maybe I just need to push myself a bit more on the hr side...
