Vintage HI Fi. Anyone else in to it?

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I've got a bit of spare cash and rather than buy yet another motorbike I'm thinking of some new (vintage) hi fi. Probably starting with either a Linn or Garrard 401 turntable.

On reading your post I thought "who would pay good money for old hi-fi" so looked on ebay. Blimey! Serious money!!

I liked this and it seemed much cheaper than the turntables on their own although still some time to run.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Garrard-4..._HomeAudioHiFi_Turntables&hash=item4abe3f9018
 

slowmotion

Quite dreadful
Location
lost somewhere
I fancy a valve amp. There's an Icon Audio Stero 25 on ebay at the moment, and its in Gloucester too.

I have thought about the valve amp kits you can buy but I know knob all about electronics and although I have done the odd bit of soldering at work over the years, it has really been just the odd bit.. Has anyone here ever built one up from a kit?
I did think of building one from scratch but I funked out for safety reasons. Valve amps often have 400-500 volts or more running in the circuit and that can quite easily kill you if you get something wrong.

I wouldn't be at all surprised if quite a few people are going to try for that Icon Stereo 25. When I bid for my amp there were just 3 bids until ten seconds before the sale closed. Five more bidders came out of nowhere in the last ten seconds. Have fun!
 

bikepete

Guru
Location
York, UK
I fancy a valve amp. There's an Icon Audio Stero 25 on ebay at the moment, and its in Gloucester too.

I have thought about the valve amp kits you can buy but I know knob all about electronics and although I have done the odd bit of soldering at work over the years, it has really been just the odd bit.. Has anyone here ever built one up from a kit?

Yes, a Kel84 from what is now World Designs:

http://www.world-designs.co.uk/el84.htm

It must be well over 10 years ago now, and the price when I got it was well under half of what it is now. It sounds absolutely fabulous - at least as far as I can tell, never really done a lot of comparing except with my then housemate's Linn system (mine won, IMO). Still gets good reviews.

Had no problems at all with the build, worked first time and has been pretty much flawless since (occasionally one channel drops out, pretty sure it just needs some contact cleaner on the selector switch). I had some electronics/soldering experience, but it really is just a case of following the instructions. As I recall all the bits came in labelled bags and you just put them where the diagram shows and solder it up. There are dangerous voltages involved though (the instructions make this pretty clear too and detail the precautions to take) so you need to have some clue and a decent multimeter.

Also bear in mind that you'll need an efficient pair of speakers as this amp (as for most reasonably affordable valve amps) doesn't give out huge power levels. I built a pair of single driver units to plans from http://brinesacoustics.com/ which work well with it in a small room.
 

Chromatic

Legendary Member
Location
Gloucestershire
I've got a Pink Triangle too ( A PT Export for those interested), good looking turntables with a good reputation for sound quality but I never found it easy to set up and use and it is now in its box. I've also got a Linn Sondek which is, at the moment, not working. In the CC archive there is a thread where this was discussed with MrPig (anyone remember him?), IIRC it was the consensus that the problem would be power supply unit was broken. I still haven't got round to getting it fixed but I have promised myself that it will be my christmas present to myself. I've also thought about getting the old PT out and setting that up again as well.

It is now working.
 

Dan B

Disengaged member
You can have our old Bush music centre.... it cost £79.99 in 1984. It has a CD cup holder
Are you sure about that date? I'm surprised that anything with a CD player in it was nearly that cheap that long ago - I mean, that's the same year as Brothers in Arms ...
 

palinurus

Velo, boulot, dodo
Location
Watford
I'm only into vintage HiFi in the sense that I'm still using amp and speakers I bought 27 years ago.

The turntable broke and I eBayed or gave away the vinyl. Felt good, freed up the head for new music.
 

Jen5656

Active Member
Location
Bonnie Scotland
I have a 60s juke box with singles, can't play to it's capacity though as the floors and walls will cave in and potential ASBO.
Not come across anything yet which can match it for sound quality. Only problem you can't listen to recent music..not that it bothers me too much being a bit time warped.
 

Archie_tect

De Skieven Architek... aka Penfold + Horace
Location
Northumberland
Are you sure about that date? I'm surprised that anything with a CD player in it was nearly that cheap that long ago - I mean, that's the same year as Brothers in Arms ...
You're right- it doesn't have a cup holder...
 

MontyVeda

a short-tempered ill-controlled small-minded troll
I've got 4 minidisc players... are they classed as vintage yet?

I also have a 70's JVC cassette deck and matching amp in the bottom of my wardrobe... plan to refurbish the deck at some point with new heads and belts... it probably belongs in a skip but it's an unusual design... and proper VU meters are far nicer than the LED's on my more modern tape deck.

and i also have the old 8-track from my dad's L reg Escort.... and one 8 track cassette... the best of Trini Lopez.
 

MontyVeda

a short-tempered ill-controlled small-minded troll
Are you sure about that date? I'm surprised that anything with a CD player in it was nearly that cheap that long ago - I mean, that's the same year as Brothers in Arms ...

after a little futile investigation the price of hi-fis with CD's in the mid 80's.... this took me back:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/lavalampmuseum/sets/72157619206330728/page3/
as did this:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/lavalampmuseum/sets/72157619071382653/page2/

but this one really takes me back...
http://www.flickr.com/photos/lavalampmuseum/3591020982/in/set-72157619081815831/lightbox/

CD hi-fi midi systems from £299... I had the crappy philips one at the top of the page, with the hi-tech angled EQ system... i was ever so slightly disappointed to find that the 'tweeters' on the speakers were just paint :sad: but it was the 1st stereo i'd bought with money i'd earned from my YTS... so maybe my first grown up purchase.
 

alecstilleyedye

nothing in moderation
Moderator
my eldest daughter is now a devotee of vinyl, so she's got an integrated record player/cd/mp3.

i've also got a colleague sending me a cassette deck for the tapes i've still got, so I'll have record deck, cassette deck and wireless airport express plugged into one amp…
 

Profpointy

Legendary Member
Despite having been slightly infected by the hi-fi bore virus some years ago, I did manage to resist the complete bollocks side where people are extoling the virtues of gold plated 13 amp plugs or whatever, I do appreciate good sound, and for many years vinyl (on a good system) easily surpassed CD on "enjoyability" of listening, even though the scratches weren't there. i bought my Linn a year or two after CDs started having doen a listening comparison - well it wasn't really a comparrison as it was so manifestly superior. These days, all my music is on the PC (in full CD format, not MP3 I might add) with the linn, rather regretably in a cardboard box. Not sure my flat is big enough if I had all my cd's on vinyl - for (so called) classical music there a so many very well priced boxed sets, and cd review on radio 3 seems to add a few more to the list each week. For all that, I still have my mission cyrus 2 amp, which still sounds good, and have recently bought some very large kef reference speakers from fleabay. They would have cost someone around £3k new apparenlty, and as I only paid a sixth of that , I find them astonishingly good. For all that, I am amazed how good basic pc on board sound is though - through the mission & kefs it is genuine hi-fi. i upgraded to a proper studio quality sound card and whilst I can hear the difference, there's really not much in it.

Still, a few years ago someone at work was emigrating and selling off his sme30 turntable and sme v arm for a couple of £k - now that would be something. i couldn't do it at the time, but would be hard to resist now, even though I've not got that many (proper) records.

Strangely though, many hi-fi enthusiasts don't seem to listen to music much, or had questionable taste at best. i remember my neighbour as a kid had quad gear, electrostatic speaker etc, and listened mainly to James Last !

Lots of bargains out there, and quad gear at least seems to be reasonably priced, and apparently upgradeable according to geekdom. Certainly my kef 105/3 speakers are a fantastic fleabay purchase
 
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