Ugly - Bradley Wiggins' Pinarello Bolide TT bike

[woohoo]

Abuse?

You'll know I'm abusing you when it happens.

How about putting forth a reasoned argument to justify excluding TT bikes from TTs? That might have more weight then opting for the ''just my opinion'' disclaimer. As it stands, I am actually completely unclear as to the grounds on which you wish to exclude the TT machines.

... and now a pathetic attempt at intimidation.

I can appreciate that you are completely unclear about many things. You are really not worth the effort.

 

[e-rider]

Does he use mountain bike pedals?

ha, that would be funny - sadly, no he doesn't!

 

[VamP]

... and now a pathetic attempt at intimidation.

I can appreciate that you are completely unclear about many things. You are really not worth the effort.

Knobber

 

[fossyant]

Behave children

 

[woohoo]

Knobber

Seems to sum you up pretty well. (sorry forgot the )

 

[deptfordmarmoset]

I quite like the same bike for the whole race approach. But the only real reason I can think of for introducing it would be the reduced cost, useful for the smaller teams.

 

[woohoo]

Behave children

Good point. I'm trying to watch Stage 4 just now.

 

[VamP]

Seems to sum you up pretty well. (sorry forgot the )

I thought I wasn't worth the effort?


Look do you actually have an opinion on the TT issue, or did you just say something random, and are now panicking because you can't think of any reason why it would be a good idea to make Sir Brad do a TT on Dogma?

I am always open to a reasoned argument.

Behave children

He started it mum

 

[woohoo]

I quite like the same bike for the whole race approach. But the only real reason I can think of for introducing it would be the reduced cost, useful for the smaller teams.

Well, it is certainly one very good reason and if it helps level the playfield, so much the better.

 

[coldash]

I like the reduced cost idea but it is also worth mentioning that even the "we need innovation" stuff doesn't really justify these TT bikes otherwise the original Boardman bike would be made legal again.

 

[VamP]

Well, it is certainly one very good reason and if it helps level the playfield, so much the better.

Although at the GT level, the teams get their kit by way of sponsorship.

The UCI have a lot of rules on what a TT bike is to achieve exactly this. The differences between various TT bikes from different manufacturers are quite insignificant from a performance perspective. I don't see the playing field as not being level.

Edited: The fact that Team Sky won the TTT on the old bikes goes some way to demonstarting this, surely?

 

[woohoo]

I like the reduced cost idea but it is also worth mentioning that even the "we need innovation" stuff doesn't really justify these TT bikes otherwise the original Boardman bike would be made legal again.

Fair point. Maybe they are not all they are cracked up to be after all!. As I said at the beginning, I thought my view would be in the minority (but I note, not as alleged, "unique"). I've spent some time in the sport and always enjoyed TTs (I'm "out" for a while). The type of bike made no difference to my enjoyment.

 

[oldroadman]

pro TT bikes are relatively heavy

You won't find many that are much above the 6.8kg minimum, just like the normal road bikes. There is no point in pushing extra kgs around up hills when saving energy is a crucial stage race strategy. A few pure road sprinters may go slightly heavier with reinforced frames, but that's maybe 200 gms tops, they still have to get over little hills!

 

[oldroadman]

I quite like the same bike for the whole race approach. But the only real reason I can think of for introducing it would be the reduced cost, useful for the smaller teams.

Teams get the equipment they need. Cost is not usually an isue, if the team is any good a deal with a supplier is done and will include what you need. Everyone operating a team at UCI level understands this.

 

[Rob3rt]

You won't find many that are much above the 6.8kg minimum, just like the normal road bikes. There is no point in pushing extra kgs around up hills when saving energy is a crucial stage race strategy. A few pure road sprinters may go slightly heavier with reinforced frames, but that's maybe 200 gms tops, they still have to get over little hills!

What is the point, they won't be sprinting anywhere on a TT bike and typically they will put out less power than the TT specialists over the distance, most certainly on a W/kg basis.