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jimboalee

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Location
Solihull
It might be interesting to note....

A 200lb bloke with both his tyres pumped up to 100 psi would have 1 sq inch of rubber contacting the road surface for each tyre.

That's not entirely true, as the weight distribution on a bike is about 60/40 rear/front. So he should pump his rear up to 120 psi and front to 80 psi to get 1 sq inch of rubber contact under both tyres.
 
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chrisb1357

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Well i am 238 lb just nearly 17 stone :laugh: and 6ft tall so as i say not the lightest guy on earth but been getting my weight down a bit each month for last 12 months.

I am now worried that the tyres on the new bike will not take my weight

Chris
 

Bill Gates

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Location
West Sussex
youngoldbloke said:
Chris - here is an interesting paper that might answer your question:
http://www.vintagebicyclepress.com/images/TireDrop.pdf
- though the pressures seem very high to me - e.g. over 150 psi at 65kg for a 23mm tyre. After all 65kg isn't that heavy - sees to indicate that if you are much heavier you should be using wider tyres ........

But it's the weight distribution per wheel. On that basis 65kgs for a rear wheel racing bike @ 60% weight distribution would mean a total weight of 108.33 kgs (nearly 17 stones).
 

MacB

Lover of things that come in 3's
chrisb1357 said:
Well i am 238 lb just nearly 17 stone :laugh: and 6ft tall so as i say not the lightest guy on earth but been getting my weight down a bit each month for last 12 months.

I am now worried that the tyres on the new bike will not take my weight

Chris

Hah, beat you, 6'1" and was 252lbs when I started cycling, dropped to 208lbs but sadly change of work and uncontrollable attraction to the fridge saw me back to 238lbs. But moving in right direction again, now back to 231lbs, it's amazing how fast it drops if you up the mileage.

Your tyres will be fine and will cope no problem just may not have the lifespan/quality of a higher spec tyre. The M+'s are rate from 50 to 85 psi, I ran them at 55 when I started and, after about 1000 miles upped them to 80 psi and they've stayed there since, 4500 miles. I've had no punctures in them.

The idea behind high pressures is that it prevents penetrative punctures and, especially, pinch punctures. The latter being where you hit a pothole, or similar, and the tube gets pinched between tyre and rim as the tyre deforms. This didn't happen to me as an 18 stone novice riding 55 psi, in the dark, on country roads. The lower pressure was also a lot comfier as I wasn't bike fit. I tended to sit heavier in the saddle and couldn't pedal as hard/often(pedalling applies a lightening effect to your seating).

The downside to running max pressure(or some go beyond) is it makes for a harsher ride and can slow you down on rougher road surfaces. Energy is transferred into jolting around rather than where you need it. In theory the heavier you are the higher pressures you can run to get the same ride quality/benefits as a skinny guy on lower pressures. In reality the skinny guys are the worst for whacking the pressures right up. Maybe they believe that by rattling their fillings loose they're going faster:biggrin:

I'd say experiment by yourself, maybe start out at 65psi and vary it around to see what you like speed v comfortwise. Setting the bike up properly is vital, starting with saddle height and setback, then working forward. But you will get aches and pains to begin with, no matter what you do. Having just started upping my mileage again I'm getting a right shoulder pain I thought was behind me. This is to do with a left elbow problem and favouring the right side, but I know that when I get fit enough it vanishes.
 
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chrisb1357

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So am i correct thinking that the tyres which are Kenda Kwest 700x35mmwill not be able to take my weight of 17 stone

Chris
 

rh100

Well-Known Member
I'm around 19.5 st at the moment - and using 700x35 tyres, don't worry about it. I assume things may wear out quicker with the weight (bearings?) but just look after the bike and it should be ok.
 

youngoldbloke

The older I get, the faster I used to be ...
Bill Gates said:
But it's the weight distribution per wheel. On that basis 65kgs for a rear wheel racing bike @ 60% weight distribution would mean a total weight of 108.33 kgs (nearly 17 stones).

Yes, you are quite right! I should have read the small print more carefully. When you include bike weight the pressures are not all that surprising.
 

Debian

New Member
Location
West Midlands
chrisb1357 said:
So am i correct thinking that the tyres which are Kenda Kwest 700x35mmwill not be able to take my weight of 17 stone

Chris

They will be fine, don't worry.

Pump 'em up to max pressure (this will be stamped on the tyre sidewall) for best puncture avoidance, test ride and adjust pressure until you find it comfortable. Don't go too low though.
 
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chrisb1357

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Well all as you might have seen on another thread i had my first puncture today on the way to work which is only my 4th day on the bike LOL. So much rubish i.e stones etc on the cycyle paths along the road. Have tried to repair but i am now looking for new tyres as we was speakign about them on here.

Do people think that the Schwalbe Marathon Plus Tyre - Smart Guard would be best choice for me

Also this might sound stupid but are prices for these per tyre or a pair LOL

Chris
 

potsy

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chrisb1357 said:
Well all as you might have seen on another thread i had my first puncture today on the way to work which is only my 4th day on the bike LOL. So much rubish i.e stones etc on the cycyle paths along the road. Have tried to repair but i am now looking for new tyres as we was speakign about them on here.

Do people think that the Schwalbe Marathon Plus Tyre - Smart Guard would be best choice for me

Also this might sound stupid but are prices for these per tyre or a pair LOL

Chris
Great tyre chris but a bugger to fit,especially if you're learning.But once you master them you'll be able to fit anything:biggrin:
Prices are generally per tyre,M+ should be around £25 each.
 
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chrisb1357

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Most places i have searched seem to have sold out of these. Can anyone advise on cheapest place to purchase them online

Chris
 
chrisb1357 said:
Most places i have searched seem to have sold out of these. Can anyone advise on cheapest place to purchase them online

Chris
I usually find chainreactions or probikekit cheapest, cr has better stock levels, there's also wiggle (don't pay for deliver) but its not as cheap in general. All of these offer a quick turn around, if thing are in stock I'd say on average: purchase 1 day, its processed in a day or less and its delivered the next.
 
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chrisb1357

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I am still looking at purhchasing the Schwalbe Marathon Plus Tyre but i am a bit worried i wont be able to fit the tyre myself. on the bike at the minute i have the cheap standard tyres that come with the bike which are Kenda Kwest 700x35mm. Would i be best to go for the same size i have now.

Also what tubes are best to get and are the sizing the same as the tyres

Chris
 
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