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jay clock

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Location
Hampshire UK
I am training for my first Ironman and know a lot of nutters! One of my mates is doing a deca IM (1 per day for 10 days).

1 - Nutrition is key. And being able to not throw it up or sh!t it out as well. Practice what you plan to eat. For distance beyond IM there is a lot of discussion that you should be eating normal food not gels and sports drinks. Here is the Deca IM menu http://www.enduroman.com/Downloads/Athlete_menu_2011.pdf and here are some musings on ultra distance eating (go down to the bottom) http://www.stevehaywood.co.uk/blog/_archives/2010/7/1/4567808.html

2 That training looks like it needs more volume in terms of cycling in my view. Some long slow rides.

3 Pool swim. Actually much harder. A wetsuit OW swim protects your skin from swelling, and gives you bouyancy. And much less dull....

4 Agreed on the bricks. As a minimum go for a 10 minute run after every ride

www.tritalk.co.uk/forums is a great place to go

Keep us posted!
 
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Flying_Monkey

Flying_Monkey

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Location
Odawa
I am training for my first Ironman and know a lot of nutters! One of my mates is doing a deca IM (1 per day for 10 days).

That sounds completely crazy.

1 - Nutrition is key. And being able to not throw it up or sh!t it out as well. Practice what you plan to eat. For distance beyond IM there is a lot of discussion that you should be eating normal food not gels and sports drinks. Here is the Deca IM menu http://www.enduroman...e_menu_2011.pdf and here are some musings on ultra distance eating (go down to the bottom) http://www.stevehayw.../1/4567808.html

Definitely something I'll be thinking about nearer the time

2 That training looks like it needs more volume in terms of cycling in my view. Some long slow rides.

I agree. Unfortunately the weather doesn't. Winter here lasts for around another month. And I mean snow and ice everywhere. So long distances on the road are out. I am getting what I can done on the static bike and getting out on my icebike. Unfortunately I can't set up my trainer in the house with a 14-month old around, and doing it in the barn is almost as cold as outside right now. So I am going to have to do the reverse of usual training practice which is work on power and speed and get longer distances in from late March onwards.

3 Pool swim. Actually much harder. A wetsuit OW swim protects your skin from swelling, and gives you bouyancy. And much less dull....

I don't find the swimming dull (yet) - maybe because it's new. I will have to get a wetsuit if I do open water swimming, but my coach doesn't think it's necessary in the pool

4 Agreed on the bricks. As a minimum go for a 10 minute run after every ride

Already read and noted. I am starting to combine almost everything now. And until now I have been cycling to the pool and back from work (which is a couple of km each way). Once teaching ends in April, I will have a little more time, and will probably run this instead.
 
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Flying_Monkey

Flying_Monkey

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Location
Odawa
Well, a bit of an update (more on the blog of course): the other day, I managed to 100 lengths (2.5km) non-stop but controlled, endurance-oriented freestyle, including tumble-turns (which I was taught for the first time last week) in 1 hr 20. So I've gone from never have done any serious swimming to this in less than 4 weeks. Still a long way to go, but I am quite pleased. I am also up to 18km on my longer runs, and doing 10k in under 50 minutes for my faster runs. Cycling is still commuting only right now - and we have another snow storm tonight.

Unfortunately now I have a terrible cold caught from my son.
 

darkstar

New Member
Great work Re the swimming, I bet a lot of that is down to you coach sorting out your technique.

Are you on a 2-beat kick when swimming freestyle, FM? If endurance is your aim, thats the goal you'll want to achieve, it's difficult to do well though, harder than it looks.
 
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Flying_Monkey

Flying_Monkey

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Odawa
Great work Re the swimming, I bet a lot of that is down to you coach sorting out your technique.

Are you on a 2-beat kick when swimming freestyle, FM? If endurance is your aim, thats the goal you'll want to achieve, it's difficult to do well though, harder than it looks.

The swimming improvement is all down to my coach. The kick is the next area for work. So far we've been deliberately ignoring that whilst I got the stroke, breathing and rolling right. Quite probably I am doing everything wrong in the kick!
 

rich87

Active Member
Location
Tonbridge, Kent
get out on the bike before the weather gets good - cycling through january/ february toughens you up for the rest of the year!
 
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Flying_Monkey

Flying_Monkey

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Odawa
get out on the bike before the weather gets good - cycling through january/ february toughens you up for the rest of the year!

Oh, I am cycling. And there is still a month of bad weather to go here, just somewhat less thick ice and snow from now on. I will definitely get out for a ride+run combination this weekend.
 
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Flying_Monkey

Flying_Monkey

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Location
Odawa
Just an update: I actually won a 10k (running) road race on Sunday, but then discovered I almost certainly have a stress fracture in my foot. This just means I have to do more cycling and swimming because I can't run for 6 weeks or so. The roads are now entirely clear of snow and ice to I can get out on the bike a lot more, and n the pool, I am now up to 120 lengths (3km) non-stop freestyle, and can do 80 lengths (2km) in 45 minutes.

So things are going pretty well - apart from the foot.
 

Ravenbait

Someone's imaginary friend
Not that you're an over-achiever or anything.

Well done, FM. I'm proud of you.

And mildly envious.

Sam (Not that I'm feeling inadequate after almost a year out from injury at all, oh no.)
 
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Flying_Monkey

Flying_Monkey

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Odawa
Not that you're an over-achiever or anything.

Well done, FM. I'm proud of you.

And mildly envious.

Sam (Not that I'm feeling inadequate after almost a year out from injury at all, oh no.)

Thank-you! It means a lot coming from you.

The only bad thing is that this is not the first time I have had a stress fracture in my foot - I did it before a couple of years ago, different bone, but all the same I wonder whether I have fragile feet... it is probably down to the sheer amount of running I have been doing over the last few months compared to last year.

Time was 40.49 BTW - which I know would not trouble the front end of 10k later in the season and with more serious runners, but I don't care. I think I can run faster than this (or could if my foot wasn't broken!) - although of course that isn't my goal right now.
 

fimm

Veteran
Location
Edinburgh
Just an update: I actually won a 10k (running) road race on Sunday, but then discovered I almost certainly have a stress fracture in my foot. This just means I have to do more cycling and swimming because I can't run for 6 weeks or so. The roads are now entirely clear of snow and ice to I can get out on the bike a lot more, and n the pool, I am now up to 120 lengths (3km) non-stop freestyle, and can do 80 lengths (2km) in 45 minutes.

So things are going pretty well - apart from the foot.

Well done on the 10k, and there's some impressive swimming going on there too, but what a shame about your foot! At least the weather is improving and you can get out on your bike.
 
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