Training advice for a fat slow cyclist

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the_mikey

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I am guilty of trying to ride as fast as I can on every road I ride on, but on longer Audax rides I have learned to keep the speed down, below 26km/h ensures that I can sustain the quality of the ride without it becoming a battle of nerves, emotions and nutrition management.
 

suzeworld

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If you think a plan would help you, make yourself a plan, but it has to be based on your actual life and opportunities, and ultimately add up to riding more, as everyone says!

Remembering to keep pushing myself rather than just pootling is the basis of what I do, though I'm not that bothered about speed I want to climb better, and I need to push my heart rate for that.

Intervals of some sort on the rides you already do is the obvious way to start. I don't use strava, but I do have a heart rate monitor and a cadence thing on my road bike, so I try to increase my cadence when my heart rate is at a good working rate (145 for me) so whatever cadence I'm doing I aim to round it up for the next few minutes of my ride.

I also train at the gym with a PT for ten weeks before my summer hols cos I want to do Alpine climbs, and I need focus for that. This is my third year of forking out for this, and it really helps me... The gist of what he does with me is increase the time I can work at a max heart rate (155 for me ... it is what i can sustain and climb at) in a high gear. We use a spin bike for that, increasing the resistance and time intervals each week to build my endurance, which I guess you need for speed as well as climbing. I also do single minutes in a medium gear @ very high cadence with minimal recovery time.

If you are a gym member, use a spin bikes on your own, not the static gym bikes, or do a spin class and work harder than the instructor tells you to! You can really see your progress with this.

We also do work on core stability, which helps keep your upper body stiller under pressure, useful for balance when climbing, and maybe to energy conservation at speed? My PT uses gym gadgets that make me wobble, but if you aren't a gym member you can do similar at home by doing planks on your elbows and pushing up to your hands, and back to your elbows again, without losing the stability of your plank posture. Over and over till you collapse. Also, from a plank on your hands, bring your knee in to your elbow on alternate sides, without losing your plank stability. I think they call that mountain climber. If you can't visualise what I mean, then a bit of looking in YouTube for core stability should find demos of the exercises which help.

I also totally agree with whoever suggested using my fitness pal app. It is brilliant. You have to get used to portion control, and weighing things so you really know what you are eating, but once you know what 10g of butter looks like you'll be much more aware of the calorie density of fats...
Otherwise, Aim to eat as much healthy stuff as you can and still lose weight!

I am in a constant battle with me weight, but all these things help. Good luck

This is me, up Galibier last year. It was slow, but I hauled this 12 and a half stones up there!
 

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suzeworld

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I would not do planks to collapse you will lose good form in the plank way before that.

That's true. I didn't mean literally collapse! Sorry!

As for the question of the OP's ability to do what I suggest, I can only say, I used to weigh 18 stone myself, and my first cycling was just the 3 mile round trip to work everyday.. which eventually extended to 20 mile rides after work, so I'm amazed he can do 40 miles at all. He sounds a strong bugger to me!

That starting cycling for me, was 22 years ago. In the last eight years I've kept my weight pretty stable, but had to keep coming back to fitness after bowel cancer, which had meant five operations and two long term chemo runs, which piles weight on, with inactivity and steroids...

Biking, and let's face it, Lance Armstrong, :whistle: has repreatedly inspired me to keep bouncing back, so I think the approach I suggest, increasing your own cadence and heart-rate works from wherever you start, can work for anyone. The idea is to push yourself against your own level, not to be a TdF victor! Btw, I only got into alpine climbs after my first round of cancer treatment finished. At one point I'd been very sure I'd never get on my bike again .. Those first ten miles along the Caledonian Canal a year after my initial diagnosis were the best EVER!
 
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suzeworld

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Lance fing Armstrong! Why mention cheating barsteward?

Because he DID inspire me, fact. Not saying it didn't break me heart to learn the truth .... Later. But I never would have gone up Ventoux if he hadn't come back that year and I decided to see him for myself on that climb. What ever else he did, he gave lots of us cancer patients confidence to fight our disease.
 

suzeworld

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So, getting back on topic.
A really simple bit of training advice from my PT trainer:
'Recover on the bike'.

By which he means, even after a really hard climb or sprint, try to keep your legs moving, don't stop peddling! Or opt for a lazy gear, etc. It is simple and make a difference in lots of different contexts, even in a spin class, when resting a bit between tracks, I'm the one on a middle gear keeping up 100 rpms while I grab a drink and mop my dripping brow.
 
Hi steppylud, +1 all the above, its not long since I was in a similar place to yourself, infact your probly doing quite a bit better than I was 2 years ago. I started at a little over 16 stones and would never have even contemplated doing 40 miles. I began with 10/12 milers 2/3 times a week and set my self targets on each ride to do say a specific section non stop which I hadn,t previously or nail that uphill that I always used to avoid and find a way round. I smoke and can recall I would always take my fags with me on a ride and would have a wee break somewhere and have a smoke then crack on again. But now it must be over a year since I last did that and i,m only now getting up to the miles that your already hitting. So all I can say is keep it up but maybe less miles more often rather rather than big miles. It worked for me and i,m at 13s2p at my last weigh in. Good luck.
 
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Steppylud

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That was a struggle this morning, forgot my water bottle and found 10.5 miles hard going. Not sure what was wrong with me. Sad cyclist :angry:
 

Zofo

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Hi, I am fat (19st) and I am slow, (avg 10mph for a 40mile ride)

Anyone got any tips to increase speed? Obviously losing weight would be a good start but, I wonder if I need to focus training in certain areas, i.e. glutes, quads and core? Help! I don't want TDF pace, just enough not to look like a wally! cheers!
Just find a route that's all downhill! :whistle:
 

BrumJim

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As others have said, I'm relatively fit and can cycle some decent distances. Add another 6 stone into my rucksack and I won't be able to do 40 miles at 10 mile/h. You are doing well already. Sort out diet, keep riding, and you'll find a new bloke inside you.
 
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