T4tomo
Legendary Member
7th recorder?
Tour de France 2023 ** SPOILERS **
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7th recorder?
GuyBoden
Guru
- Location
- Warrington
I'm thinking that Mattias Skjelmose will win this year. I've been impressed........
He might be good for a stage
GuyBoden
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- Warrington
No, Mattias Skjelmose will win.
Adam4868
Guru
The power of positive thinking....I like it.
Send a bit to his DS 😁
Trek - Segafredo control Mattias Skjelmose's expectations ahead of debut Tour de France: "It would be great to finish third, but we don't expect that"
Jameshow
Veteran
What's the national lottery numbers for weekend?!!
Cathryn
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- Location
- Marlborough, Wiltshire
MasterDabber
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- Location
- Surrey and the Lot in France
Don't know if this has already been posted but the official TdeF Roadbook (in English) is available from here
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1knEvZtG3R7cK4ijzNrKVN1TQlLdXCbuM
Just scroll down the list of roadbooks. It's an interesting reference and gives details of the finishes as well as the usual route and elevation stuff.
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1knEvZtG3R7cK4ijzNrKVN1TQlLdXCbuM
Just scroll down the list of roadbooks. It's an interesting reference and gives details of the finishes as well as the usual route and elevation stuff.
If you change the sort by to the most recent it's right at the top (well it was just now)
matticus
Guru
Uesful thanks .. but why is the French version twice the size of English?!?
MasterDabber
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- Surrey and the Lot in France
No idea, they both seem to have the same number of pages.
Beebo
Firm and Fruity
- Location
- Hexleybeef
BBC just posted their own stage by stage guide with route profiles. Which seems very easy to use as a quick reference.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cycling/65843147
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cycling/65843147
Dogtrousers
Kilometre nibbler
See that tiny pimple just before the finish of stage 1 - Cote de Pike, cat 3, Hardly worth bothering with.
It's 2km at 10% Which, if it were in the UK would probably end up on one of Simon Warren's lists of greatest climbs.
It's 2km at 10% Which, if it were in the UK would probably end up on one of Simon Warren's lists of greatest climbs.
matticus
Guru
Indeed. Streatley Hill is our local "hard" climb (hard enough that club-runs always divert round the back of it). Google says:
Streatley Hill is #24 on Simon Warren's Greatest 100 Cycling Climbs and is short at 900 meters but stout at 11.6% average grade!
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I get the impression Grand Tour cats are more based on the duration than the gradient (relatively speaking); the pros won't take very long to climb Cote de Pike, hence it's feeble Cat 3 status.
Dogtrousers
Kilometre nibbler
The mighty Ditchling Beacon aka "The Alpe d'Huez of the South Downs" is 1.5 km at just over 9%. Although the gradient is uneven and peaks at about 20%.
Of course we are but southerners. In the North things are different. I hear that @ColinJ has to go up 10km of 20% just to get to his outside toilet.
Re cat status, I've ridden up Cat 3 or 4 climbs that are genuinely weedy. On the generally flat stage 1 Mont St Michel to the tip of Cotentin in 2016 there's an unimpressive hill that was given cat 3 or 4 I think just so that there were some mountain points and they could give the polka dot jersey to someone at the end of the day. I doubt the pros even slowed down much. I've ridden a couple of other climbs in the area that I'm told were categorised on other editions of the Tour. St Pois being one I can remember.
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