Tour de France 2023 ** SPOILERS **

[Beebo]

Yeah I don't believe Vinnegard is doping.

A more feasible explanation is that while we have watched the two of them supposedly riding on the limit and inseparable in terms of ability. It would appear to me that Vinnegard wasn't on the limit at all - Hence he always had something in the tank when Pog attacked ........and of course felt pretty fresh for yesterdays TT ....

Vinnegards unwillingness to attack has made the race seem much closer than it actually is

That’s quite feasible. On stage 5 he rode away from Pog with ease. Maybe that surprised him how easy it was.
He probably worked out at that point he could just cruise around as he was a level above.

 

[Chislenko]

Very suspicious!

Maybe fish is good for you 🙂

 

[T4tomo]

Ving has been quite defensive throughout, he cant quite cope with a super Pog last 1km attack, but knew he couldn't lose more than a handful of seconds to those anyway. But he almost didnt want to try a stage 5 attack again in case it back fired. that was an awesome ride from him yesterday, I thought / hoped Pog might nick 10-20second on him, how wrong I was, but I cant help thinking Michael Rasmussen, maybe its a Dane thing

I cant see the UAE boys being able to conjure up anything today to drag that gap back now.

 

[matticus]

It was one of the "highlights of the Tour" for me, defying gravity, with relaxed nonchalance. I'd have been arse over tit.

Wasn't going to bother, but I HAVE to watch this now!

 

[Mad Doug Biker]

Pog, pogo, pogi, poga
Vini, Vin, vino, veni, vidi, vici...

Considering it always sounds like 'Vinegar' to me, why ignore it? 🤷

You need to have a word with your writers..

It rolls off the tongue better than most I've seen on here! 🙄

Wasn't going to bother, but I HAVE to watch this now!

What, McNobber getting 'arsed over tit'? 😆

 

[cougie uk]

Wasn't going to bother, but I HAVE to watch this now!

Worth watching for the teeshirts I always think. No idea where he gets them from.

 

[roadrash]

Really not directed at anyone in general but there's a thread in pro cycling section dedicated to doping....anyone can say anything they want in there,well you can say it in here but the majority of us who follow and love this sport will take it with a pinch of salt,so don't spoil it for us ? The race isn't over and I've got plenty of enthusiasm and emotion invested in it 😁

couldnt agree more

 

[Supersuperleeds]

If there's one thing I want to come out of this Tour before they cross the line in Paris it's to get some agreement as to how we refer to Pogacar and Vingegaard if not using their full surnames.

Pog, pogo, pogi, poga
Vini, Vin, vino, veni, vidi, vici...

Pogo stick and vinegar knickers.

 

[Illaveago]

He must have had his Weetabix !

 

[Sunny Portrush]

Yeah I don't believe Vinnegard is doping.

A more feasible explanation is that while we have watched the two of them supposedly riding on the limit and inseparable in terms of ability. It would appear to me that Vinnegard wasn't on the limit at all - Hence he always had something in the tank when Pog attacked ........and of course felt pretty fresh for yesterdays TT ....

Vinnegards unwillingness to attack has made the race seem much closer than it actually is

Part of me likes to think that after taking the lead, Vino then lulled Pogi into a false sense of security by letting him attack and take small gains before blowing him away in the TT lol

 

[kingrollo]

Part of me likes to think that after taking the lead, Vino then lulled Pogi into a false sense of security by letting him attack and take small gains before blowing him away in the TT lol

I just think Vinnegard gets himself as much ahead as he needs to be - then marks rather than attacks.
Sure Pog can jump away for a few meters - which gives the impression that Pog can at some stage drop Vinnegard - but in reality it's a display of defensive cycling by Vinnegard.

 

[matticus]

Apart from Stage 5. And the bonus seconds he has grabbed in sprint(s).
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Meanwhile; is this a really boring Tour, or one with such incredible performances that they must be d*ping? Can someone please tell me which to believe?!?

 

[roadrash]

As already said, it would be nice if we could keep doping insinuations in the relevant forum section , there is a doping git thread running.

 

[Jameshow]

As already said, it would be nice if we could keep doping insinuations in the relevant forum section , there is a doping git thread running.

Where I'd like to weigh in with all my expertise!🤣🤣🤣

 

[rich p]

Jumbo attacking early. Not defensive riding...