Tour de France 2012 (with SPOILERS)

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Well yes there's that example of internecine warfare but that was crosswinds and HTC rather than Lance.
I think it was actually 1999, stage 2 when a crash on the Passage du Gois caught out the majority of the peloton and gave Lance 6 mins over Zulle.
Its a different type of incident but it was consciously exploited by the USPS team.
And my point about Voeckler was he seemed to use the crash as an opportunity to attack the breakaway.
I didn't know that about 1999. I'd heard that there was a crash and Zulle got dropped on the Passage, but I'd never heard about USPS driving the peloton to put time into him. Given all the anti-Lance stuff I've read over the years it's surprising that an actual example of poor form rarely gets mentioned.

I thought Voeckler only attached the break as they approached the finish? I'm sure he was doing his Hollywood routine almost to the line.
 

PaulB

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I'd love to see a video of the miscreant who chucked the tacks locked in a room with Bernard Hinault. Can you imagine the brutality dished out by the Badger with the cloak of righteous indignation on his side?
 

thom

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I didn't know that about 1999. I'd heard that there was a crash and Zulle got dropped on the Passage, but I'd never heard about USPS driving the peloton to put time into him. Given all the anti-Lance stuff I've read over the years it's surprising that an actual example of poor form rarely gets mentioned.

I thought Voeckler only attached the break as they approached the finish? I'm sure he was doing his Hollywood routine almost to the line.
See this post for a reference to it - 2nd two last paragraphs.
"Armstrong and his team had been in front of the crash. His main rival that year, Alex Zulle, was stuck behind. Armstrong’s group accelerated immediately and gained about six minutes on the stalled pack. Zulle ended up finishing second by more than seven minutes."
I only heard about it so when I mentioned earlier I was off about the details. It's hard to find on google a reference to it because you want to do a search for "Armstrong attacks" but you can imagine what turns up...
Edit : I think this incident was why the race was neutralised when they rode the passage last year.
Jens Voigt twitter quote just now:"buuh that action, trying to gain time when other suffer from punctures and crashes = lack of class ! Enough said to that."
 

Peteaud

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Jens Voigt twitter quote just now:"buuh that action, trying to gain time when other suffer from punctures and crashes = lack of class ! Enough said to that.








spot on
 

Andrew_Culture

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What's happened to ITV4's budget over the last few days? Four days ago they had a full mobile studio, then some of the wall panels disappeared, then last night they had to use Belgian TV's setup and today they just have a fold up table in a layby!
 
What's happened to ITV4's budget over the last few days? Four days ago they had a full mobile studio, then some of the wall panels disappeared, then last night they had to use Belgian TV's setup and today they just have a fold up table in a layby!
Might depend on how much space there is at the finish. Given that they only have Imlach, Boardman and a roving Boulting they don't need all that much space.
 

Peteaud

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Why does Boardman always look so miserable?
 
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User169

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Like Wiggo's comment: " find the culprits and send them to a football match".
 

BJH

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OK, I'm going to play devil advocate and a different take on the Evans punture and Wiggins .....
on itv4 Wiggins was asked what the problem was going up the climb, he replied he was having a bike problem and wanted to change bikes, now maybe, just maybe when he heard of Evans punture he took the opportunity to slow the peloton under the guise of helping Evans but really to change bike, stopping any attack from Nibali etc :whistle:

edit... forgot to add a smilie... :blush:


That would be being unfair to him, he said he had struggled with his bike all day so if that was the case he was still where he needed to be so we can safely think he would have ended Cadels Tour if he had continued so I am happy to give him the benefit of the doubt on this
 

Doseone

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OK, I'm going to play devil advocate and a different take on the Evans punture and Wiggins .....
on itv4 Wiggins was asked what the problem was going up the climb, he replied he was having a bike problem and wanted to change bikes, now maybe, just maybe when he heard of Evans punture he took the opportunity to slow the peloton under the guise of helping Evans but really to change bike, stopping any attack from Nibali etc :whistle:

edit... forgot to add a smilie... :blush:

I thought he slowed the peleton after he changed bikes. But then my feeble brain can't remember what I had for breakfast so maybe I got that wrong. Anyway, I know you're only playing devils advocate, but I like to think he slowed the peleton for the right reasons, not for any personal gain.
 
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