Tour de France 2012 (with SPOILERS)

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Missing the point. Of course it was appreciated, but it shows a lack of dignity when you need to draw attention to it yourself. Anyway, it's hardly great sportsmanship, it's expected behaviour.

Team Sky, more cheerleaders than the NFL!
a) Why not mention it? The attack was the dominating feature of todays stage.
b) To the bold:- a chap could be forgiven for thinking you have an agenda here...
 

lukesdad

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Clever tactics by sky. Froome in his interview, saying if Wiggo crax he ll ride with the contenders and crack them, Sky saying to the contenders don t bother attacking we ve got it covered. :laugh:
 
We've all forgiven him, he did not know. Let him back into your heart...
Just watching the highlights again - Rolland attacks at the precise point when the race seems to have lost focus and discussions are being had. Watch Wiggy chatting to someone as Rolland attacks, think it might be Nibali. Also, watch the reaction from the Sky riders as Rolland goes - he must have known that the racing had stopped for a reason and they are not impressed.
 

redcard

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a) Why not mention it? The attack was the dominating feature of todays stage.
b) To the bold:- a chap could be forgiven for thinking you have an agenda here...

a) The attack was the dominating feature, not the fact that the whole pelotón held back when the race was over anyway.
b) My agenda was to call out their ridiculous Facebook feed.
 

thom

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Just watching the highlights again - Rolland attacks at the precise point when the race seems to have lost focus and discussions are being had. Watch Wiggy chatting to someone as Rolland attacks, think it might be Nibali. Also, watch the reaction from the Sky riders as Rolland goes - he must have known that the racing had stopped for a reason and they are not impressed.

Its a wierd one. Last year Voeckler (also Europcar...) was lionised for his tour efforts but if I remember correctly, he gained the yellow jersey and crucial time on a day to St. Flour when the racing was toned down after Hoogerland and Flecha's accident (did Vino also go off that day). He certainly seemed quite opportunistic at the time. Maybe Rolland you can say is quite young and just did something he now regrets - certainly Brad is getting a lot of respect now but he wasn't when he turned the air blue a few days ago.

I think there's also a comparison at some point to Lance Armstrong very deliberately caning it with his team and gaingin a decisive advantage when either Zulle or Ulrich had a mechanical (at the bottom of a climb in the first tour he won ... ? Dunno exactly).

I guess it's one thing when a mechanical happens that your team or the rider is responsible for, like Schleck's chain slip. When an outside party like a spectator intervenes in the racing, it's just a lottery that makes a mockery of the event if you seek to benefit from it.
 

Kiwiavenger

im a little tea pot
How many tacks just in one tyre on the support car!

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Its a wierd one. Last year Voeckler (also Europcar...) was lionised for his tour efforts but if I remember correctly, he gained the yellow jersey and crucial time on a day to St. Flour when the racing was toned down after Hoogerland and Flecha's accident (did Vino also go off that day). He certainly seemed quite opportunistic at the time. Maybe Rolland you can say is quite young and just did something he now regrets - certainly Brad is getting a lot of respect now but he wasn't when he turned the air blue a few days ago.

I think there's also a comparison at some point to Lance Armstrong very deliberately caning it with his team and gaingin a decisive advantage when either Zulle or Ulrich had a mechanical (at the bottom of a climb in the first tour he won ... ? Dunno exactly).

I guess it's one thing when a mechanical happens that your team or the rider is responsible for, like Schleck's chain slip. When an outside party like a spectator intervenes in the racing, it's just a lottery that makes a mockery of the event if you seek to benefit from it.
It's all so subjective, isn't it? Codes of behaviour, rather than hard and fast rules. I rather like that, it matters more when riders chose to behave that way, rather than being obliged by rules.

What happened to Hoogerland (and Flecha) was an individual act of misfortune - I don't think you'd stop for that, especially in a break. The tacks were an attack on the whole peloton and the peloton (led by the MJ, because that's the MJ's responsibility in that kind of situation) reacted.

Armstrong caning it?I think you mean La Grande Motte in 2009 and it was his own teammate he was attacking...;)
 
Today's not-very-interesting fact: You can pick up a packet of 20mm carpet tacks from Homebase for £5.99. But they do not tell you how many are in the pack.

J'accuse!

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yello

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Team Sky, more cheerleaders than the NFL!

And the problem with that is what exactly?

My agenda was to call out their ridiculous Facebook feed.

But you're not calling out anything. It's not as if Sky are doing anything out of the ordinary there. If Wiggins posted the same thing, or tweeted it, I might agree with you.

Cycling is a business. Sky have sponsors. They draw attention to themselves in the name of advertising. But you know that.
 

thom

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Armstrong caning it?I think you mean La Grande Motte in 2009 and it was his own teammate he was attacking...;)
Well yes there's that example of internecine warfare but that was crosswinds and HTC rather than Lance.
I think it was actually 1999, stage 2 when a crash on the Passage du Gois caught out the majority of the peloton and gave Lance 6 mins over Zulle.
Its a different type of incident but it was consciously exploited by the USPS team.
And my point about Voeckler was he seemed to use the crash as an opportunity to attack the breakaway.
 
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