Tour de France 2012 (with SPOILERS)

[Chuffy]

yep, I haven't read that one but I have read a similar article on the same subject. It's all good news so far.

It is, but I'm not uncrossing my fingers yet.

 

[iLB]

Eurosport's take on it: "It was sad, then, to see one rider behaving much like a spoilt footballer at the finish. Having managed to avoid the crash and finish alongside his main rival for the GC, Britain's Bradley Wiggins was caught on camera having a completely unnecessary meltdown in Metz.

Coasting along in the finish zone, Wiggins's path was temporarily blocked by a French cameraman trying to run after the stage winner, Peter Sagan. Instead of moving slightly, Wiggins held his ground and then — in an act of outrageous petulance — seemed to deliberately knock the camera out of the man's grip.

In the ensuing war of words, an irate Wiggins was hear shouting: "F***ing a***wipe. You f***ing wiped me out with a camera, you stupid c***." (And to think, if he wins the Tour he'll be up against Andy Murray for the BBC's Sporting Personality Of The Year award...)"

bolluucks from eurosport, he had about a second to choose between taking it in the face and intervening

 

[Monsieur Remings]

About 20% on the final pitch.

Yep, sounds about right.

Very much looking forward to their efforts in the Pyrenees and hopefully today will not be the last we'll see of Chris Froome. A massive shout to Richie Porte, perhaps the unsung hero today for Sky and not for the first time this season.

 

[Chuffy]

bolluucks from eurosport, he had about a second to choose between taking it in the face and intervening

Yup, absolute cobblers. The camerabloke wasn't in his path, it was the bloody great camera that he was toting at face height that was the problem. The gormless berk wasn't paying attention and Wiggy only clocked it at the last moment, just in time to shove it away from his face. My sympathy is with a knackered rider trying to get back to his bus after a hard stage.

 

[lukesdad]

That might shut a few people up.

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[Monsieur Remings]

bolluucks from eurosport, he had about a second to choose between taking it in the face and intervening

I'd like to have seen what a rider like Bernard Hinault would have done in the same situation. Complete non-story but pretty good reactions from Wiggo nonetheless.

 

[smutchin]

Quit the outraged innuendo reading and read this http://www.sportsscientists.com/2009/07/tour-de-france-2009-power-estimates.html followed by some of the more lucid posts on here http://forum.cyclingnews.com/showthread.php?t=8839&page=79 and see if what Sky are doing is believable.

Who do you believe? Who do you want to believe?

There's enough conflicting "evidence" out there that it's easy to cherry-pick the parts that best support one's preferred position.

It's hard to avoid the innuendo though, especially after performances like we saw today.

d.

 

[Chuffy]

Who do you believe? Who do you want to believe?

There's enough conflicting "evidence" out there that it's easy to cherry-pick the parts that best support one's preferred position.

It's hard to avoid the innuendo though, especially after performances like we saw today.

d.

It's a bit of a nightmare, but the evidence on the 'they're doping' front seems to be a mix of dodgy histories/associations and stupid assumptions (winning a stage = doping, beating riders with very shady reputations = doping, riding like USPostal = doping) etc. There are also a lot of cretins out there who just want to look smart, and if you shout 'doper' at teams/riders who do the slightest thing to raise suspicion then there is no way you can be proven wrong and you might get to claim 'I knew it all along' bragging rights if a rider gets busted. Being a Clinic cynic is a no-lose situation.

The evidence in favour of riders and teams being clean(er) tends to be much more reliable - power estimates and VAM up climbs etc which show that riders are just not reaching the peaks that they used to in the bad old days.

I know it's not easy and there's every possibility that I might be wrong, but I prefer the conclusions that science offers, rather than the cheap rubbish spouted by a bunch of smart-arsed tossers on a forum.

 

[Chuffy]

I'm still watching Sky from behind the sofa though. I *really* don't want to be proved wrong about them, but cycling doesn't exactly reward faith or naivety.

 

[Boassen Hagen]

Incredible day for British cycling. Froome rode the ride of his life.

 

[yello]

It's hard to avoid the innuendo though, especially after performances like we saw today.

Indeed it is. And, in fairness, you can understand that people might cry 'witch' after witnessing what we saw from Sky yesterday. I hope/believe they're clean but if you had to point a finger at any performance yesterday...

 

[MattHB]

Incredible day for British cycling. Froome rode the ride of his life.

It was awesome to watch.

They seriously have to do something about those pissed up French yobheads running along ride.. I'd have done more than push them away. And as for that twunt with the flag.. Jeez

 

[yello]

Probably Brits there to support 'their Brad'

Have you ever watched the Giro?

 

[cd365]

Awesome performance by Team Sky yesterday

 

[junglegusset]

..... I know it's not easy and there's every possibility that I might be wrong, but I prefer the conclusions that science offers, rather than the cheap rubbish spouted by a bunch of smart-arsed tossers on a forum.

Your referring to Cycling News right?