Yep, that one, I'm paying a bit more credence too but it also requires me to read and understand more, so I need to read it a few times to understand it all.
Tour de France 2012 (with SPOILERS)
- Thread starter Flying_Monkey
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smutchin
Cat 6 Racer
- Location
- The Red Enclave
They're wearing me down with their drip-drip-drip innuendo...
I mean, I know* Sky aren't doping but I keep reading so many vaguely plausible "proofs" of why they must be doping that I'm starting to get confused...
Should I just change my name to Winston Smith?
d.
*know/trust
I mean, I know* Sky aren't doping but I keep reading so many vaguely plausible "proofs" of why they must be doping that I'm starting to get confused...
Should I just change my name to Winston Smith?
d.
*know/trust
PpPete
Legendary Member
- Location
- Chandler's Ford
OK - so here's a question for all you more knowledgeable folks out there ....
Given that his priority is "last man standing" in the Sky train for Wiggo, what are Chris Froome's chances of holding on to the KOM jersey ?
Given that his priority is "last man standing" in the Sky train for Wiggo, what are Chris Froome's chances of holding on to the KOM jersey ?
smutchin
Cat 6 Racer
- Location
- The Red Enclave
It won't happen.
That was the first big climb, plus it was double points for being the finish of the stage, so whoever won the stage was guaranteed to take the jersey. (The points have been weighted this year so it's impossible to win the jersey by bagging all the 3rd and 4th cat climbs.)
Froome may possibly win another mountaintop stage finish like that but he won't be contesting the intermediate climbs on the big Alpine/Pyrenean stages, which are where the jersey will be won.
d.
That was the first big climb, plus it was double points for being the finish of the stage, so whoever won the stage was guaranteed to take the jersey. (The points have been weighted this year so it's impossible to win the jersey by bagging all the 3rd and 4th cat climbs.)
Froome may possibly win another mountaintop stage finish like that but he won't be contesting the intermediate climbs on the big Alpine/Pyrenean stages, which are where the jersey will be won.
d.
Quit the outraged innuendo reading and read this http://www.sportsscientists.com/2009/07/tour-de-france-2009-power-estimates.html followed by some of the more lucid posts on here http://forum.cyclingnews.com/showthread.php?t=8839&page=79 and see if what Sky are doing is believable.
And when you find out, let me know because I still have to read some bits slowly and out loud. The gist is, they are but they must be at the limit. Comparisons to Lemond's days have to be read carefully, as I'm pretty sure the whole approach and understanding of training and limits, phyiology and endocrinology, has changed since then, as has the style of racing.
frayBentos59
Specialized OCD
- Location
- Royal Liverpool
good shout
it was. (thank you google)
Monsieur Remings
Guru
- Location
- Yatton UK
Fair comments Zimzum, slightly more detail and reasoning behind what you're saying here and though I don't agree, I can appreciate your standpoint.
On a much more positive note, Sky were incredible today from the point at which they began to turn the screw on the rest of the peloton. How steep was that gradient FFS?
Without having read any of the above links (yet
) , my thought is that- SKY have done their homework and recces on the stage(s) and
- with their performance-based data, know how much power their riders are capable of sustaining over what period and so they get them to ride to their limits, then pull off (lead-out guys), leaving the way 'clear' for their finishers (Froome and Wiggins). It's all power-meter based, so they are good at a steady pace but can't do the accelerate - rest - accelerate people like (dirty
) Bertie can.
Chuffy
Veteran
- Location
- On the banks of the Exe
About 20% on the final pitch.
martint235
Dog on a bike
- Location
- Welling
And also has no one else noticed it's sunny
What does 'sunny' mean, please ?
Proud to be British today. Cav has been flying the flag for a few years, but he seemed to be an isolated talent surrounded by foreigners, kind of a like an african or asian footballer would be at Man Utd. or Chelsea.
Today, British cycling turned up trumps. Lead the way for the best part of the day, grabbed the stage win and the yellow jersey. Can it get much better than that for a nation with such a limited cycling pedigree?
The speed at which Froome went up that last stretch was frightening. They say it was 20%. I've ridden up White Down in Surrey which has a turn that is the same, its absolutely brutal.
Today, British cycling turned up trumps. Lead the way for the best part of the day, grabbed the stage win and the yellow jersey. Can it get much better than that for a nation with such a limited cycling pedigree?
The speed at which Froome went up that last stretch was frightening. They say it was 20%. I've ridden up White Down in Surrey which has a turn that is the same, its absolutely brutal.
Chuffy
Veteran
- Location
- On the banks of the Exe
@Crackle & Scoosh
You might find this study interesting. http://news.discovery.com/adventure/tour-de-france-drugs-120629.html
You might find this study interesting. http://news.discovery.com/adventure/tour-de-france-drugs-120629.html
Hip Priest
Veteran
I think he could turn out to be the Sebastian Vettel of cycling. Prodigiously talented, but personality-wise it's wackiness masquerading as charisma.
yep, I haven't read that one but I have read a similar article on the same subject. It's all good news so far.
