Time to change the national anthem?

[RichardB]

The Beethoven 'Ode to Joy' has to be the best tune ever written in the history of music, but unfortunately it is now firmly associated with the EU. What's the betting it becomes the 'Stay In' campaign tune when the referendum comes? Realistically, no nation could use it as a national anthem now.

 

[srw]

Riffing on the Knightsbridge March - how about the Dambusters march? It's very well known, extremely singable (short phrases) and has a very limited range. It's also very well known, and has probably just about lost all its association with the mass murder of German civilians.

 

[winjim]

Can we have Tubthumping by Chumbawamba?
It describes us perfectly. We won't be kept down, and we do like a drink. A whisky drink, then a vodka drink...

The best suggestion, no further debate needed

I swear if that happens I shall become religious and a monarchist and sing God Save the Queen every day with as much verve as I can muster. Bloody awful song, what were they thinking? I quite liked them before that, Anarchy is a fantastic album. They lost all credibility with that Tubthumping racket* though.


*See what I did there?

 

[nickyboy]

You mean it wasn't the popular 50 Cent version?


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MnxO9XnZq_Y

Heard a lot of mashups but that is my new favourite

Deffo new Anthem

 

[SteCenturion]

While it is undoubtedly pants, I do sing it out loud, usually at sporting events, this despite being no real fan of the monarchy.

Being of mixed race, *Scots Father, English Mother* I seem to get that hairs stood up on the back of your neck feeling from Flower of Scotland, but that could just be the fact that it is a fiercely patriotically sung anthem.

 

[Gravity Aided]

While it is undoubtedly pants, I do sing it out loud, usually at sporting events, this despite being no real fan of the monarchy.

Being of mixed race, *Scots Father, English Mother* I seem to get that hairs stood up on the back of your neck feeling from Flower of Scotland, but that could just be the fact that it is a fiercely patriotically sung anthem.

Being also of mixed background, as we all are in the States, (Irish/Dutch/English Father, Mother Bavarian/Yorkshire/Allsorts) I sort of get that feeling from most national anthems

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2Z6tBU3gmY

(best melody)

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gwBrR_G70RE

(most defiant lyrics)

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u8tISSIxrjI

(Predictable melody line, good in a national anthem, especially if you have to play it.)

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I8KSAtos-dk

Very fine melody line, even if the lyrics get a little precious after the second verse.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fMw1bEHHhpo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_6nwidAdH4A

You'll catch yer death of cold.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_6nwidAdH4A
(confound their politics, frustrate their knavish tricks)

 

[SteCenturion]

Which prompts me to suggest


View: https://youtu.be/9OHCOWJSzKE

Ah yes, wonderful.

& music breaks out in the anthem thread.

 

[byegad]

The most moving rendition of Ode to Joy was recorded in Berlin in a free concert for the East Berliners after the wall came down.

Instead of the word Freude, Joy, the male singer came out with Freiheit, Freedom. The hairs on the back of my neck stand up even now when I play my recording of that version.

 

[winjim]

Suggested by Phill Jupitus on Room 101 I think (might have been Bill Bailey I'm not sure), on the grounds that everybody knows the words. "Dum de dum de dum de dum, yompy pompy doo dah.."

On extra special occasions we could have the Sunday omnibus accordian version.

 

[raleighnut]

Suggested by Phill Jupitus on Room 101 I think (might have been Bill Bailey I'm not sure), on the grounds that everybody knows the words. "Dum de dum de dum de dum, yompy pompy doo dah.."

On extra special occasions we could have the Sunday omnibus accordian version.

Copying Billy Connolly then, see my earlier post,

EDIT see post #38

 

[winjim]

Copying Billy Connolly then, see my earlier post,

EDIT see post #38

Oh yeah, maybe it's Billy Connolly I'm thinking of. Jupitus had the audience standing to attention for the Blue Peter theme iirc.

Edit: here we are

 

[captain nemo1701]

I'd go for this (about 0.21)

 

[marknotgeorge]

You know, I really don't think Jerusalem is that religious. The first verse is full of a healthy dose of skepticism: did Jesus really witness the dark Satanic mills? Did he really? And if we take Jerusalem as a metaphor for the perfect place, the second verse is the narrator pulling their sleeves up and getting on with things.

 

[Profpointy]

You know, I really don't think Jerusalem is that religious. The first verse is full of a healthy dose of skepticism: did Jesus really witness the dark Satanic mills? Did he really? And if we take Jerusalem as a metaphor for the perfect place, the second verse is the narrator pulling their sleeves up and getting on with things.

still great words and a great tune.

I recall being told it was considered rather heretical by Chistians or at least the catholics, although friends had it at their (catholic) wedding - their priest was pretty laid back and not overly worried about that sort of thing: doctrine and what not. They chose it for its socialist connotations.

 

[srw]

You know, I really don't think Jerusalem is that religious. The first verse is full of a healthy dose of skepticism: did Jesus really witness the dark Satanic mills? Did he really? And if we take Jerusalem as a metaphor for the perfect place, the second verse is the narrator pulling their sleeves up and getting on with things.

Quite. Blake was far from conventionally religious, even if Parry (who set it) was highly religious. Elgar, whose orchestration we usually hear, was a very devout Catholic.