Time to change the national anthem?

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Gravity Aided

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Land of Lincoln
As I am in the States, and our NPR was in news mode at the time. Although I'm informed Ernest Fararrs' English Pastoral Impressions will be played in a few minutes.
 
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RichardB

Slightly retro
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West Wales
The problem with the UK anthem is that it's a dirge!
It's only a dirge if you play it at half speed, as we do. The tune is in fact a dance (galliard) from the 16C and if you hum it at double the speed with emphasis on the first and fourth beats of the bar, it's actually quite a lively little number:

Ta ta ta taaa ta-ta
Ta ta ta taaa ta-ta
Ta ta ta taaa
Tiddle-tiddle ...
I quite like it played like that.

Having said that, and as a Yorkshireman living in Wales, the best of all the anthems has to be Mae hen wlad fy nhadau. It's all about pride in a beautiful country and its language and poetry, nothing about being subservient to the rich and powerful, and the only military references are of defence, not conquest. And it has a grand tune, with plenty of easily-sung but dramatic passages. Even though I am not Welsh, it gets me every time.

For the UK, Land Of Hope And Glory, every time.
 

Gravity Aided

Legendary Member
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Land of Lincoln
Big Brother could watch this...

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F43DqnMoWi0
No, he couldn't. He's still at work.
(and he'd probably stand up, put his hand over his heart, and sing along.)
 

RichardB

Slightly retro
Location
West Wales
[QUOTE 4012755, member: 259"]Like for everything but Land Of Hope And Glory. A boring dirge.[/QUOTE]
Nah, it's great! Depends how it is played, of course, but the tune has a reasonable range, a good shape from beginning to end of the verse, and a nice climactic conclusion. I find it quite stirring when it's played well on the last night of the Proms. But I wouldn't go to prison over it; there are plenty of excellent tunes that don't glorify privilege or celebrate conquest.
 

Profpointy

Legendary Member
THe best anthem out there is trans-national:

Freude schöner Götterfunken
Tochter aus Elysium,
Wir betreten feuertrunken,
Himmlische, dein Heiligtum!
Deine Zauber binden wieder
Was die Mode streng geteilt;
Alle Menschen werden Brüder,
Wo dein sanfter Flügel weilt.

(of course, officially as an anthem it has no words.)

The second best anthem also has no words:


I know the first one just from the words, and must have four or five versions on cd - the best being Furtwangler Berlin Phil from 1945 live, but didn't.know the 2nd was Charpentier - maybe another purchase
 
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