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CopperBrompton

Bicycle: a means of transport between cake-stops
Location
London
An articulated truck would be great if we can get one, but it won't be a problem doing the filming with a 7.5-tonne one.
 

CopperBrompton

Bicycle: a means of transport between cake-stops
Location
London
Nothing that camera angles can't take care of.

As I say, if we can get an articulated truck, fantastic, but so far we've had no luck with this. A 7.5-tonne truck would get the job done.
 

classic33

Leg End Member
Ben Lovejoy said:
Nothing that camera angles can't take care of.
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Tred carefully here. The minute anything is altered, the whole thing can be dismissed as nothing more than a cyclists rant.

To many people have put too much time into this to see it fail after the work is done. Iv'e followed but have been able to add little to what was already being said/done.
 

CopperBrompton

Bicycle: a means of transport between cake-stops
Location
London
Nothing will be 'altered', it's just a question of choosing our camera angles to illustrate the point. There's nothing fake about it: cyclists can be in the blind spots of 7.5-tonne trucks too.
 

thomas

the tank engine
Location
Woking/Norwich
Ben Lovejoy said:
Nothing will be 'altered', it's just a question of choosing our camera angles to illustrate the point. There's nothing fake about it: cyclists can be in the blind spots of 7.5-tonne trucks too.

I'd be very careful on this! If people don't trust it, they'll ignore it.
 

ttcycle

Cycling Excusiast
I think it is really important that we try and get an articulated vehicle to portray the blind spots most effectively - otherwise the other possible routes the campaign can go down ie mirrors etc would be hard to incorporate. Plus with a 7.5 ton truck the way the back of the vehicle swings round when it's negotiating a turn is also different to a articulated lorry - vital to capture this on the filming if at all possible as Kate -Ellidh's sister has pointed out that the way HGVs turn has an impact on cyclist safety especially if narrow roads in big cities aren't designed for long and large vehicles to negotiate the roads safely. It's good to be accurate with what we're producing; if getting a HGV does become impossible then we think again but we're nowhere near close to exhausting all the options yet.
 

classic33

Leg End Member
To those who set this up & to those who suggested it.
Can I ask if everyone who has voiced an opinion on this contributed to the hire of a articulated lorry would you be willing to contribute to see the project through to its conclusion. This is the sticking point now, the actual vehicle.

Magnatom, as the person who set this up, Where would I send the £10. Joking aside(remember the question you put on here about getting your address). If not to your home address to the nearest post office.
 
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magnatom

Guest
If we were to take donations for the HGV hire, I would be happy either to set up pay pal or take cheques etc. In fact I am probably the best person to do it, as everyone knows who I am in real life and I would have more to lose if I just ran off with the money! :tongue:

However, I agree that an artic would be best and hiring should be a fall back. ttcycle, what do you see as our options? If we have a list then we could assign a person to each option.

I certainly think we should be contacting companies and asking if they would be willing to help. I don't live in London, so I don't know who is best to contact, however, if someone gave me a list, I'd be happy to put together a letter asking for help. I've had some success in the past with this, and I could use my infamy to increase the chances of us getting noticed in the in-tray.

What do you think?
 

Jake

New Member
paypal is bad becusae its increasingly hard to get your money back from them and they charge more. best to do a bank transfer
 

classic33

Leg End Member
Right if we rule paypal out, how about direct payment into an account set up for the purpose. I'm willing to trust Magnatom with money when I send it & other than whats been on here I know nowt about him.

Magnatom if you feel happy doing this let the rest know. Sorry for picking on you. But this started out so well & now one thing is preventing it going through to its conclusion.
 
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magnatom

Guest
I'm certainly happy to look after the money, although what do you mean you don't know who I am!:biggrin::biggrin: (I'm a media daaaarling, don't you know!:biggrin:)

However, as ttcycle says there might be other options that we need to exhaust before we go for a hire. Lets give it another week or so, to see if we can get something sorted. Any ideas guys?
 

Speicher

Vice Admiral
Moderator
It is a rather large long shot, as it were. In Moreton in Marsh, Gloucestershire, there is a Fire College, where they train Firemen. There is a detailed map of the College and all its facilities on their website, (fireservicecollege.ac.uk) I have been thinking about how they train rescue services with regard to large vehicles and whether they have hgv vehicles there. Or could you use the cab of a fire engine, but then you could not get the outside of the cab shots. So I am not sure if this is a good idea at all.

Usually Moreton in Marsh is easily accessible from Paddington, but not until the end of August IIRC due to working on the line. So it also depends on when you wanted to do the filming.

If this is too much of a long shot, just say so, I will not be offended, I was just trying to think of alternatives.
 

ttcycle

Cycling Excusiast
The options that I can think of are:

1. To contact LCC
2. To contact HGV companies within filming area
3. To contact HGV specific unions to mailshot their members?
4. To send out a speculative email to all contacts to see if anyone on the off chance has access to a HGV
5. Possibly contact corporates such as supermarkets/building trade or similar who would want maybe a credit at the end ie a logo if we could use one of their vehicles -though don't know if they'd want a branded vehicle in the vid!

I'm sure there's more but that's what I can think of off the top of my head. Does anyone else have any other sources of wisdom?

Speicher, Moreton is not a bad idea but it depends on whether we would be able to recreate the conditions of a busy junction at the training school.

Also just to let you all know Admin has set up a sub forum under campaigns that is called HGV deaths - can you guys list all the relevant threads so I can message him back to put them under that sub forum -unless you're happy for it to stay here.
 

Origamist

Legendary Member
ttcycle said:
Also just to let you all know Admin has set up a sub forum under campaigns that is called HGV deaths - can you guys list all the relevant threads so I can message him back to put them under that sub forum -unless you're happy for it to stay here.

http://www.cyclechat.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=19532&highlight=lorry

http://www.cyclechat.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=38862

http://www.cyclechat.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=36214

http://www.cyclechat.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=38158

http://www.cyclechat.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=20436
 
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