Time for action

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On the list of offers of help, back on page 17, Jake has said that he makes websites.

I have been updating this list as more people have made offers. If anyone thinks I have missed them off, please pm me.

Aye I did have a look at that, but I'm a bit shy at directly asking people!

Oh, ok then, Jake! Jake! You up for it?

 

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Classic33, that's excellent news!

If you don't want to reveal the details of the company in public you could always PM me the details so I know who might be on board.

 

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ttcycle, that is excellent news. Thanks for chasing this up. Let us know what they think.

I'll get my thinking cap on for names campaign slogans to put up against Plenty of Room so we can have a vote. Anyone else have any ideas?

 

[Speicher]

I have put one possibility in a pm to you, but it is not my suggestion/idea, you might need to speak to the person who wrote it, details in the pm.

 

[Speicher]

OFFERS OF HELP FROM FORUM MEMBERS

ttcycle
She has experience with community campaigns. Also has a broad sheet contact, and has two film-maker friends - she will contact them.

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knows a CEO of an Ad Agency
　
scouserinlondon
He is in web marketing. Used to work for a trucking magazine. Still has contact with the editor and will call him, when there is a "clear campaign and idea". He is also happy to help with any promotion stuff you need to do, from SEO and PPC campaigns to any website, to laminating and flyering.
　
Ben Lovejoy
www.photographybybenlovejoy.com has offered his skills in still photography. He can also drive a 7.5 ton truck.
　
Plax
has offered to help with campaigning
　
Kaipath
has shot videos before, he gives a link to one of them - I tried to copy the link, but it would not work on my computer. He says it is NSFW.
　
karlos_the_jackal
(www.myolondon.com) He has offered advertising skills which includes clean graffiti, I think this means it washes off.
　
Jake
He edits videos, makes websites. He has got a film crew, (but they usually film people with not much on).
　
GordyFaeEdinburgh
He would be happy to host the website. He would also be able to help put a web-site together.
　
The following have offered to help but not sure how they can help
Davywalnuts
Cotterpin
wesa
semislickstick
Arch
Jim Noir (says he can do home movies)
upsidedown
Sh4rkyBloke


I tried to be very accurate with this, but if you notice any errors, please pm me, and I will edit it accordingly.

I have "bumped" the list of requests, so that it is not too many pages back. Please note we now have two very kind offers to construct a website.

 

[Sh4rkyBloke]

Only just seen this thread - count me in, please.

Unsure exactly how I can help, but the enthusiasm is there. Must get to bed now though.

 

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Ah yes I missed our GordyFaeEdinburgh who is also willing to do some web work. Are you two guys (Jake and GFE) still up for it?

 

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Only just seen this thread - count me in, please.

Unsure exactly how I can help, but the enthusiasm is there. Must get to bed now though.

Good man. You can be the expert on zig zag overtakes...

 

[Sh4rkyBloke]

Good man. You can be the expert on zig zag overtakes...

Thanks.

 

[Sh4rkyBloke]

Working on Ben's excellent idea I have thrown together a quick (30 sec) video cobbled from bits of my 2 days commuting with a camera (I know, such a huge resource of film to work with!!)...

One thing I have to say is that it's damned difficult to work within 30 seconds!!

The Bus needs to be replaced by some relevant HGV footage, and the other stuff doesn't accurately reflect the ideas Ben suggested (left hand lane with traffic on right, right hand lane with traffic on left etc.) but it gives an idea of how it might work/look and some clue as to how easy or hard it may be to get the 'correct' footage.

I find it easier to work with something 'real' rather than paper with words.

So, may I present a "3C Group" (Cycle Chat Campaigners Group) draft production of the HGV Awareness/Undertake -> Undertakers/"Be patient, not a patient" message.

Here.

 

[Speicher]

That's very good, seeing as you "threw" it together. I agree thirty seconds seems a bit short. My brain cannot register the stills of the accident sufficiently.

That's the first time I have seen the other two Campaign names, Undertake or Patient. Have I missed them elsewhere?

 

[Sh4rkyBloke]

That's very good, seeing as you "threw" it together. I agree thirty seconds seems a bit short. My brain cannot register the stills of the accident sufficiently.

That's the first time I have seen the other two Campaign names, Undertake or Patient. Have I missed them elsewhere?

Ooops, didn't realise there was an "official" title for it, I just put something to try and describe what it was (must really go back and read the whole thread properly it seems!! ). Sorry!

 

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Well done Sharky! Very good!

I think you've made it more difficult for yourself by fading to black for the words, i.e. they could appear with the moving picture (contrasting colour of course). Also I wonder if the addition of some graphics might highlight the 'room' we are talking about.

Also I wonder if we only need one really striking picture which starts off wide and focuses in on something personal from the cyclist, i.e. bring in the human angle and leave that as the last lasting image.

Of course I'm no expert at this and any video experts opinions would be welcome.

 

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I know a couple of people have made the point that Plenty of Room is a little detached from the issue, i.e. it doesn't make you think of cyclists and HGVs. Speicher made the point to me via PM that we could possibly make the oo in room bicycle wheels, and have a bike above it.

I also wondered if you could somehow make the M look like an HGV, so that as part of the slogan you could have a bike approaching an HGV (if you had a question mark after that it could be the HGV cab).

Again, I stray into areas that I have no skills in (any graphic artists out there?) and yes some may think this is a daft idea, but it is just an idea....what do you think?

 

[Sh4rkyBloke]

Well done Sharky! Very good!

I think you've made it more difficult for yourself by fading to black for the words, i.e. they could appear with the moving picture (contrasting colour of course). Also I wonder if the addition of some graphics might highlight the 'room' we are talking about.

Also I wonder if we only need one really striking picture which starts off wide and focuses in on something personal from the cyclist, i.e. bring in the human angle and leave that as the last lasting image.

Of course I'm no expert at this and any video experts opinions would be welcome.

I did think about this but the visual break given by the fade and the text on its own seemed to be useful and not to detract from the message... but as a downside it's extra time taken!

Good idea about the single image at the end, probably better than the three I have put as they don't give much time to actually see what they are .

Crticism/ideas to improve is/are welcome - as I say, it was more a test to see how much you could fit into the 30 secs... and the answer is "not a whole lot" with an end message and the text in between the clips (which also seemed quite short).

Also helps me with my "getting to grips with Movie Maker" somewhat too.