Flying_Monkey
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There were certain riders then in continental teams who were considered to be unacceptable to the British Cycling program or Olympic selection in the mid-2000s. One of them may have rhymed with Lunt.
Thomas accussed of doping amongst others
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There were certain riders then in continental teams who were considered to be unacceptable to the British Cycling program or Olympic selection in the mid-2000s. One of them may have rhymed with Lunt.
Tim Bennet.
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Hincapie scores only 1, but has now admitted using EPO.
He also claims to have supplied Armstrong: (From the BBC
"Another team-mate of cyclist Lance Armstrong is reported to have said he used performance-boosting drugs.
George Hincapie, whom Armstrong once described as being "like a brother", would be the latest former team member to testify against him.
CBS News said Hincapie had told officials he and Armstrong had supplied each other with EPO before races and discussed using testosterone.
Hincapie was considered one of Armstrong's most loyal team mates on the US Postal team, and rode alongside him in all his seven Tour de France victories.
But the CBS programme 60 Minutes claimed he had testified to a US federal investigation into doping that he and Armstrong had taken EPO together."
He also claims to have supplied Armstrong: (From the BBC
"Another team-mate of cyclist Lance Armstrong is reported to have said he used performance-boosting drugs.
George Hincapie, whom Armstrong once described as being "like a brother", would be the latest former team member to testify against him.
CBS News said Hincapie had told officials he and Armstrong had supplied each other with EPO before races and discussed using testosterone.
Hincapie was considered one of Armstrong's most loyal team mates on the US Postal team, and rode alongside him in all his seven Tour de France victories.
But the CBS programme 60 Minutes claimed he had testified to a US federal investigation into doping that he and Armstrong had taken EPO together."
oldroadman
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1. The list was a confidential assesment by the UCI for use in targeted testing. Allegedly.
2. It was leaked to L'Equipe, but by who, and for what purpose?
3. L'Equipe published it, and surprise, surprise, French riders and teams featured in the less suspicious categories.
4. The French are desperate for a TdF home win, and it does not look like happening for a while. So taint the other riders? It would not be the first time?
5. None of the French winners of the TdF have been non-negative, which proves about as much as Armstrong testing clear.
6. The use of meaningless statistics (teams and countries totals) makes anyone with a basic knowledge of statistics just fall about laughing, no weighted averages, variable samples, total lack of consistency. It's utter spheroids.
In summary, a list is leaked, then everyone is encouraged to get excited about who is where, and unless the UCI ever intend publishing the criteria, it reamins that, an unscientific list, published irresponsibly, or for their own political reasons, by a formerly respected publication.
Compounded by comment/conjecture from an awful lot of people who appear to have slight, if any, knowledge, of the subject.
Quite why there is this compulsion on the forums and in the press to destroy the image of the sport escapes me, as the fans, participants, followers presumably enjoy the sport, and the press make a handsome living from it. Then again, the press would simply move to something else if cycling stopped. Maybe some footy, tennis, rugby, basebell, etc., players, or athletes, weightlifters, who else? To them it's just business. As is professional sport, and there is, allegedly, plenty of "preparation" going on in every discipline.
2. It was leaked to L'Equipe, but by who, and for what purpose?
3. L'Equipe published it, and surprise, surprise, French riders and teams featured in the less suspicious categories.
4. The French are desperate for a TdF home win, and it does not look like happening for a while. So taint the other riders? It would not be the first time?
5. None of the French winners of the TdF have been non-negative, which proves about as much as Armstrong testing clear.
6. The use of meaningless statistics (teams and countries totals) makes anyone with a basic knowledge of statistics just fall about laughing, no weighted averages, variable samples, total lack of consistency. It's utter spheroids.
In summary, a list is leaked, then everyone is encouraged to get excited about who is where, and unless the UCI ever intend publishing the criteria, it reamins that, an unscientific list, published irresponsibly, or for their own political reasons, by a formerly respected publication.
Compounded by comment/conjecture from an awful lot of people who appear to have slight, if any, knowledge, of the subject.
Quite why there is this compulsion on the forums and in the press to destroy the image of the sport escapes me, as the fans, participants, followers presumably enjoy the sport, and the press make a handsome living from it. Then again, the press would simply move to something else if cycling stopped. Maybe some footy, tennis, rugby, basebell, etc., players, or athletes, weightlifters, who else? To them it's just business. As is professional sport, and there is, allegedly, plenty of "preparation" going on in every discipline.
Flying_Monkey
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No, not allegedly. The UCI has already confirmed it was created for this reason and defended it.
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great post oldroadman, the best anyone can do with any of this garbage is [to a large extent] ignore it. secondly, there are a couple of posts on this thread being dismayed at some names, and the position they appear on this 'list'; then being pleased that other riders are lower/higher, you can't just pay lip service to a rider appearing at zero because you like them then in the same post say that you agree with mr x appearing where you thought they should be. pick a view point and stick to it, don't move the goal posts to suit.
