This Video Could Save YOUR Life?

[Lemond]

Why on Earth is it not helpful? It's very clear to me. It says: "I'm concerned about this and here it is from my perspective. Please try to understand why I might not see you".

Sounds like you've been unfortunate to meet the militant wing of cycle chat. You'll get used to them and their snooty superior tone. Better yet, stick them on your ignore list; it makes for a far more pleasant experience.

 

[glasgowcyclist]

But of course all Lorry drivers are scum aren't they

That's not my experience.

GC

 

[winjim]

Why on Earth is it not helpful? It's very clear to me. It says: "I'm concerned about this and here it is from my perspective. Please try to understand why I might not see you".

If he's that concerned I would be interested to know what other measures (besides making this video) he is taking to ensure the safety of other road users around his video. Is he campaigning for better cab visibility? Better junction design? Better delivery scheduling so that big artics aren't needed as much? If he could demonstrate that he / the industry was doing anything like that then it would serve to strengthen his argument.

 

[winjim]

That's not my experience.

GC

I for one don't recall you saying it was.

 

[snorri]

It is unfortunate that criticism on CC of the inherent safety of HGVs is interpreted by some as a criticism of HGV drivers.

 

[winjim]

It is unfortunate that criticism on CC of the inherent safety of HGVs is interpreted by some as a criticism of HGV drivers.

The thing is, on an individual self-preservation sort of level, staying away from big lorries and being aware of their blind spots and the type of manoeuvres they perform is good advice for cyclists. It's just when put in a wider context, and especially when presented as the sole aspect of a supposed shared responsibility, that it becomes somewhat perverse.

 

[subaqua]

I for one don't recall you saying it was.

It certainly comes across in the posts made.

I could , based on the flawed logic so prevalent here,say that all Muslims drive into cyclists based on my experience yesterday . That would of course be utter codswzllop .
There are bad drivers and good drivers of all types however you want to categorise .

For those hard of thinking that means I know there are some bad lorry drivers, but not all are.

Now I shall go and knee jerk about Islam .

( no I won't , as I am reasonably sensible )

 

[subaqua]

[QUOTE 4257675, member: 9609"]how awful, he would probably be riding on steel 30 year ago, may be even in a cab sitting on the chassis. every minor bump went through the driver.[/QUOTE]
Yes. not nice. He was the same age as I am now . Which scares the crap out of me.

 

[Milkfloat]

Not think anyone is saying the video is completely without merit, however it is also in many cases pointing the finger of blame at others. For example, telling cyclists that when a truck passes them closely that it may cause a dangerous draft. Now how is this the cyclists fault? The truck should not overtake so closely. If it had stuck to simple facts like blind spots and passing at on the left at junctions then it could have been a good video. Instead it was completely one sided and thus loses the good message it could have given.

 

[winjim]

It certainly comes across in the posts made.

Which specific parts of which specific posts? Are you sure you're not reading too much into them?

Sure there are good and bad lorry drivers but the video is not about that. The video is saying that articulated lorries are inherently unsafe vehicles. So by that admission, from the horses mouth so to speak, do you not think it appropriate that there should be a debate as to whether they ought to be allowed on the roads at all, and if so, how the burden of responsibility should fall in the case of an accident?

 

[Tanis8472]

Are those the same well-trained artic drivers that go through the M1 road works 50mph limits at 60mph+ in the middle lane shunting cars out of the way with tailgating, flashing lights and horns, then swerving in and undertaking when they don't get their way?
And no they're not the ones with PL or LT on their plates, most of these are British.

With LT or PL drivers. Cant remember the exact figure, but there are a hell of a lot of foreign "trained" drivers drivings HGV's.

 

[bladesman73]

He's a lorry driver promoting nonsense in the guise of road safety advice. I don't know about him but I wouldn't endorse something I didn't believe. That particular link has now been viewed around 4000 times so its message is being spread and its not helpful.

GC

whatever those in the video said, whatever way they positioned their viewpoint, you would have found some subliminal message within that was a supposed dig at cyclists, absolutely radio rental

 

[glenn forger]

Can you stop beating you wife then ........


Well if you want to accuse all then feel free to be using general sweeping statements .

Those are the circumstances in which HGV drivers have killed cyclists. So it's talking about the safety of drivers, which is the subject of the thread. Not all drivers. Dunno why you struggle with this, it's pretty straightforward.

 

[subaqua]

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Read my other posts about what happened yesterday

 

[subaqua]

Those are the circumstances in which HGV drivers have killed cyclists. So it's talking about the safety of drivers, which is the subject of the thread. Not all drivers. Dunno why you struggle with this, it's pretty straightforward. No idea why you would drag muslims into it. Why mention muslims?

Again you fail to read all and only see what you want