I simply pointed out one of several sports with far more preventable deaths and serious head injuries than cycling!
This is a helmet debate
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I simply pointed out one of several sports with far more preventable deaths and serious head injuries than cycling!
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Can't you just say you it's everyone's individual choice and you don't want it to become law and then we can put this thread to bed?
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said that several pages ago, its the anti helmet brigade who have more posts on the subject
threebikesmcginty
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There is no anti helmet brigade.
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it appears that way when you look at many of the posts
threebikesmcginty
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Non helmet wearers don't want those that do not to...
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david k
I've previously tried to raise the level of debate concerning the merits (or not) of wearing a helmet.
I think I have come to the conclusion that there is a group of forummers (if that's a word) who have such rigid views on the helmet debate that the discussion really struggles to get above the level of mud-slinging.
My view is that these forummers will not tolerate a standpoint that is different to theirs and this means that reasoned debate cannot take place. However, I think this is probably just the nature of debates on forums.
Your thread seems to have unfortunately succumbed to this (and I feel I'm going to get some stick for posting this.)
I've previously tried to raise the level of debate concerning the merits (or not) of wearing a helmet.
I think I have come to the conclusion that there is a group of forummers (if that's a word) who have such rigid views on the helmet debate that the discussion really struggles to get above the level of mud-slinging.
My view is that these forummers will not tolerate a standpoint that is different to theirs and this means that reasoned debate cannot take place. However, I think this is probably just the nature of debates on forums.
Your thread seems to have unfortunately succumbed to this (and I feel I'm going to get some stick for posting this.)
Fab Foodie
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I'd suggest that the reasoned debate, the statistics and the evidence, tend to support not wearing a helmet on a bicycle. It's this that get's the pro-helmet brigade in a lather.
Ultimately it matters not unless the end-game is compulsion. Do what you will.
Instead of arguing the merits or not of helmets, why don't all of us encourage 1 new person to start cycling, that would make the world safer and more pleasant for all of us.
Ultimately it matters not unless the end-game is compulsion. Do what you will.
Instead of arguing the merits or not of helmets, why don't all of us encourage 1 new person to start cycling, that would make the world safer and more pleasant for all of us.
gavroche
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How do you work that one out? How does cycling make the world safer? Less wars? less accidents? less murders etc...?
Who is anti - helmet?
"it should be law"
https://www.cyclechat.net/
If you've now changed your mind and now accept it's ok for people to make their own choice, then this is good, and these threads haven't all been in vain :-)
Fab Foodie
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Well ....
More cyclists, makes the roads safer* for cycling. This has been demonstrated.
More cyclists means there are potentially** less cars on the road, which is safer for cyclists, other motorists, pedestrians and playing children.
More cyclists/less cars means less polution.
Not a big leap of imagination is it?
*Safer - reduced accidents, reduced effects of pollution, particularly particulates.
**Of course not all cyclist are converts from car driving, but a proportion undoubtably are.
I've graphed the cumulative cyclist deaths in professional competition (leaving out one heart attack and two hit by cars) since 1970. It certainly looks like the numbers are accelerating since helmets started to be worn and were then made mandatory (it seems to change around 1998). Explanations could be increasing competitor numbers/race distances, greater racing pressures and performance, risk compensation or helmets worsening the outcome. Nothing definitive but intriguing nevertheless.
No apple & custard?!
What's interesting (and I know the scale is quite small) but it's not just a rise, it's quite a dramatic rise.
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