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oxoman

Well-Known Member
Would you either he were even more lazy and drove his car?

Even on an ebike he's still getting more exercise than 95% of the population.

Your fixation with ebikes sounds to me more like sour grapes because you don't have one. If they don't float your boat then fair enough, but you should not measure others by your own preferences. One say someone will do it back to you over something important and it won't be so jolly when it's you on the other end of someone else's prejudice.

Legal ebikes riders aren't doing any harm so why should we even bother wasting energy on an opinion?

Definitely don't want an ebike. As far as my little brother is concerned he's called topper for a reason, he always tops what you've done get etc. Our little bike group actually caught him logging on strava as a normal bike and stealing KOMs etc. He did come clean over it when tackled. We'll have to agree to disagree I suspect.
 

Chris S

Legendary Member
Location
Birmingham
So lately ,because life's circumstances dictate, I only ride a Brompton.
But, people who obviously don't cycle, think it's an "E-bike" and all too frequently ask stupid questions. " how fast does it go ?" " how far does it go?" Does anyone else who usually rides a folder get this crap ?

My Sturmey Archer 3-speeds frequently get mistaken for e-bikes. I get asked the same questions even though it's obvious that the bikes were made in the 1970s and '80s.
 

Drago

Legendary Member
Definitely don't want an ebike. As far as my little brother is concerned he's called topper for a reason, he always tops what you've done get etc. Our little bike group actually caught him logging on strava as a normal bike and stealing KOMs etc. He did come clean over it when tackled. We'll have to agree to disagree I suspect.

Your group must be nigh on geriatric if someone on an ebike is stealing segments off them. The comment betrays your lack of knowledge.

The moment you hit 15.5 mph and the motor cuts out they're incredibly hard work, what with the extra mass and drag from the motor.

The notion that EPAC riders go about buring off other riders is largely nonsense. Even a below average rider on a moderately sporty bike would have little difficulty running rings around an EPAC.
 

Gunk

Guru
Location
Oxford
So lately ,because life's circumstances dictate, I only ride a Brompton.
But, people who obviously don't cycle, think it's an "E-bike" and all too frequently ask stupid questions. " how fast does it go ?" " how far does it go?" Does anyone else who usually rides a folder get this crap ?

No, I just find people are fascinated by it, especially when I fold it up in the pub.
 

Webbo2

Well-Known Member
Your group must be nigh on geriatric if someone on an ebike is stealing segments off them. The comment betrays your lack of knowledge.

The moment you hit 15.5 mph and the motor cuts out they're incredibly hard work, what with the extra mass and drag from the motor.

The notion that EPAC riders go about buring off other riders is largely nonsense. Even a below average rider on a moderately sporty bike would have little difficulty running rings around an EPAC.

This is not strictly true. I went on a club run which went up Blakey bank from Church houses which is 25% for much of its length. I was beaten to the top by a lady on what I would describe as an electric shopping trolley. I had stop 3 times yet the previous week I was getting to the top of the climbs first.
On this particular run there was barely any flat roads to hit 16.5 mph to drop the electric bikes.
 

upandover

Guru
Location
Liverpool
My electric road did really well above 15.5mph. it got you to that speed easily certainly, but riding above that was easy. It was a heavy bike (18kg), but the motor disengaged so almost no drag, and it rode wonderfully. There are plenty of heavy bikes that hit the wall, certainly, but far from all.
 
Your group must be nigh on geriatric if someone on an ebike is stealing segments off them. The comment betrays your lack of knowledge.

The moment you hit 15.5 mph and the motor cuts out they're incredibly hard work, what with the extra mass and drag from the motor.

The notion that EPAC riders go about buring off other riders is largely nonsense. Even a below average rider on a moderately sporty bike would have little difficulty running rings around an EPAC.

I used to have my rides as public on STrava and I couldsee loads of people going far faster on the leader boards
and I did have my rides set as ebike rides

I did notice that the vast majority that were at the top of any sector were well over 15.5 mph - after which an ebike is just a very very heavy bike

it does help you accelerate but that only helps at the start and most of them start a bit after the gate or whatever so you are already up to speed

personally I don;t fidn there is much drag on mine over 15.5 - but there must be some

I did get quite high up one segment at about 22/23 mph - but that was a day with a tailwind which made a lot more difference that the motor!!!
 

VinSumRox

Well-Known Member
Location
Scottish Borders
When we have done some of the trails in NZ on our MTBs people have looked at them and asked where the batteries went, and where then very impressed we were just using leg power. One accommodation owner asked when we were getting our bags dropped off and was even more impressed we were carrying all our own gear!
 
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brommieinkorea

brommieinkorea

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Your group must be nigh on geriatric if someone on an ebike is stealing segments off them. The comment betrays your lack of knowledge.

The moment you hit 15.5 mph and the motor cuts out they're incredibly hard work, what with the extra mass and drag from the motor.

The notion that EPAC riders go about buring off other riders is largely nonsense. Even a below average rider on a moderately sporty bike would have little difficulty running rings around an EPAC.

Very few type 1 ebikes on the roads anymore, most are illegal or of the 20 and 28 mph variety. I think type 2 and 3 are illegal in the UK and Europe also.
 
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brommieinkorea

brommieinkorea

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So, being mistaken for an illegal motorcycle has happened to others. Good to know I'm not alone in this silliness.
As for my dislike of "e bikes". An "e bike" is a tiny ,slow motorcycle whose purpose in being is to allow the operator to evade licensing, registration and insurance requirements. Never have I seen one driven by someone handicapped or aged. They are only used as a vehicle here by people who can't drive a car because they are some type of criminal.
Perhaps things are much different as a rule in the UK ?
 
Very few type 1 ebikes on the roads anymore, most are illegal or of the 20 and 28 mph variety. I think type 2 and 3 are illegal in the UK and Europe also.

The legal ones do exist around here

probably more than the illegal ones but the illegal ones are more obvious as the whizz around doind dodgy stuff

I also see a fair number of "probably illegal" ones going to and from the industrial areas clearly being used for commuting and being ridden perfectly properly
just with less effort when you realise they are not slowing down and not pedalling

When I go out riding I notice a lot of ebikes - less than "proper" bikes but they are there

other areas will clearly differ
 

Tenkaykev

Guru
Location
Poole
I sometimes get asked if my recumbent is electric. I take it as a compliment, as they can’t believe quite how athletic I look climbing hills. It is just all part of the experience of riding something different.

That's a bit like me if I get chased by a dog when I'm out running. It's obvious that the dog has mistaken me for a gazelle 😁
 

Kell

Veteran
Never had it happen yet that it's been mistaken for an ebike.

And I've mentioned this before, but when I used one of the Brompton Hire bikes for a month beofe getting my bike I had more comments of "Nice bike mate!!" in that short time than I've had in over 30 years of commuting.

The hire bikes are/were purple and pink (with yellow plastic clips) though. It was nicknamed by a guy at work as my Dora the Explorer bike. Maybe cycling around London (where there are lots of Brommies) means having a regular one probably doesn't draw as many comments as elsewhere).
 

Kell

Veteran
Picture of the hire bike.

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