The worlds brightest rear led? - made in Britian by .....

[Sore Thumb]

there's such a thing as too bright, I thought jimbo's post well made, it's unlawful to use fog lights in normal weather isn't it?

Does this only apply to motorised vehicles? As a cycle does not have separate fog lights.

As long as you have the legal rear light that conforms to all the british standards etc, that would be as much use as a chocolate fire guard. Does it matter what second high powered rear led you have.

Opps I don't have reflectors on my pedals either.

 

[Davidc]

There's such a thing as too bright, and I think this will be that.

I need to replace one of mine, I'll be buying the (British made) Blackburn Mars 4 and won't be waiting for this device. That'll be quite enough to get me seen by anyone with their eyes open.

 

[ufkacbln]

That'll be quite enough to get me seen by anyone with their eyes open.

I have twin Dinottes and drivers on occasion can't see these!

This light has the advantage of burning through the closed eyelids of all too many drivers

 

[Davidc]

I have twin Dinottes and drivers on occasion can't see these!

This light has the advantage of burning through the closed eyelids of all too many drivers

I did say with their eyes open. Should have added "and not looking down at the text message they've just received".

Fortunately the vast majority of drivers do pay attention, the majority of the rest will notice a 1/2 watt LED or above day or night.

Most drivers will also be very irritated if cyclists go round with dazzlingly bright lights running rather than sensibly bright ones.

 

[ianrauk]

I did say with their eyes open. Should have added "and not looking down at the text message they've just received".

Fortunately the vast majority of drivers do pay attention, the majority of the rest will notice a 1/2 watt LED or above day or night.

Most drivers will also be very irritated if cyclists go round with dazzlingly bright lights running rather than sensibly bright ones.

It's a bit of a problem on the FNRttC's. Guys & Gals, please angle your rear lights downwards thank you...

 

[TheBoyBilly]

When funds allow it'll be the Flare for me to go with my RedEye Micro.

Bill

 

[HJ]

..... Hope

I was going to buy the new integrated rear LED from Exposure lights, but not any more. I will now be waiting until 2011 when hope bring out there new rear LED called the District.

Oh my, it looks good. You can run it off its own battery or you can run it using a splitter cable and connect to your current hope battery set up.

I was only just thinking last week that I wish hope would make a rear led. Now they have, I can't wait. I want the first one out of the factory please.

I have got one hope vision 4 light and two of the hope vision 2 lights. They have all been fantastic lights with good customer service.

http://www.hopetech....x?itemID=SPG210


what do you think?

I think it is such a good idea I was discussing it with a business adviser this very evening....

 

[HJ]

... but then unlike most of the posters above I already use a bright rear light and have seen the advantages of having one, I also know other people who having seen my lights has gone out and bought the same light set. Is there a market for them? Is the bicycle just for poor people? Would someone really spend £1K + on a bicycle and then cycle to work? Think about it, here is a product which really does make you visible on the road and therefore safer. Lets face it, there are lots of people out there whiling to spend silly money a bit of polystyrene which costs a total £2.50 to manufacture (pack distribute and advertise), and has been clearly shown not to increase safety on the road. I know which I would rather have.

 

[Davidc]

It's a bit of a problem on the FNRttC's. Guys & Gals, please angle your rear lights downwards thank you...

Cyclists in groups is a different problem, because of the small distances between bikes and the length of time the rider behind is looking at the light.

Good manners means if I'm riding with someone else behind I turn off the 2 Smarts and just leave the constant light from the B&M. When there are a number of cyclists they all have back lights so there's lots of distributed warning for drivers.

 

[amaferanga]

Does someone have to hand the stats on cyclists rear-ended by cars? I'm not aware of it being a huge problem so can't see why EVEN brighter rear lights are going to help in any way. A Smart 1/2 Watt or two is more than enough IMO.

That light will be annoying to all other road users and is absurdly expensive so I'm out.....

 

[dellzeqq]

Yep, can agree with that.
If people are happy enough to pay £80 for a Hope 1 front light. And there are many that you will so on a FNRttC, then can imagine that a good few of those would be interested in a Hope rear light also.

they'd better not be! I've get complaints about rear lights dazzling the folk behind. Anybody who turns up with one of these monsters, angles it down (as you suggest), puts a sock over it or gets sent straight to the back!

(and I have been rear-ended by a car doing 55mph..)

 

[ianrauk]

they'd better not be! I've get complaints about rear lights dazzling the folk behind. Anybody who turns up with one of these monsters, angles it down (as you suggest), puts a sock over it or gets sent straight to the back!

(and I have been rear-ended by a car doing 55mph..)

Check out my post #22 up there ^^^ squire

 

[Fiona N]

(and I have been rear-ended by a car doing 55mph..)

Ignore the rear light question - I want to know how you survived being rear-ended by a car doing 55mph unless you were also in a car

 

[totallyfixed]

I can't really see how the current situation as regards bicycle light legislation can continue given that every year lights get brighter. There is no law in situ that prevents you from running for instance, the new Exposure Six Pack rated at 1800 lumens, great for off road, but on road? These sort of lights are going to burn a hole in the retinas of the drivers of vehicles coming the other way, not big and not clever. I get flashed after cars have dipped their lights coming towards me and I've only got the Hope Vision 1.
The usual response to this from [some] of those with trillions of lumens is along the lines......that'll show em; now they will see me: serves the b........s right etc etc.

As for blinding a motorist with your rear light, not true, first you will see eg the Flare [or HJ's Dinotte?] from a long way away which is the idea. If the light is flashing, [which I believe it should be as it clearly denotes a bike] the approaching vehicle just switches to main beam which both alerts the cyclist, identifies the cyclist to the vehicle and also helps light the way for the cyclist.
I have been out in the car and tested everything I have said here. On a wet night approaching Mrs TF from the front on a narrow pitch black country lane I saw her coming from what I judged was several hundred metres and I dipped my lights, but as she got closer her light then blinded me and I could see that for some drivers the temptation would be then to switch back to main beam. How clever would that be - both parties blinded.
I really don't see the point in pi...ng off other road users or we will just end with more and more bad tempered encounters..
Only two front lights impress me for not blinding cars is the Exposure Strada and B&M Ixon IQ.
My apologies to the OP for wandering off topic slightly.

 

[marcw]

Not sure I see the point. You can see a 1/2W smart from a long way away, much further than the car's stopping distance. I prefer the fibre flares method of making the light wider/ longer. If anything blinding a car driver who is approaching me doesn't sound like a good idea. I'd rather they saw me and then overtook without having to squint. In N London being overtaken by a car in rush hour is not a common occurance until you get to the North circ so I don't see it as being much use to commuters. I'd like to see someone start making jackets with EL wire sown into the arms, shoulders and down the front and back. Like a Tron suit.