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classic33

Leg End Member
Thanks.

The plans to reopen the long closed platform at Halifax sums up the lack of understanding the authorities have regarding public transport. There have been similar calls to reopen long closed suburban stations in Leeds recently too, all of which are pointless until they sort out capacity issues in the network across the region. There is no point having new stations or platforms when there are insufficient trains to carry the passengers they already have.
They can't reopen Platforms 3, 4 & 5, fully, because they sold the old station building to Eureka, along with the old goods yard.

You can see where they are exploring putting the entrance, under the footbridge, at Halifax. They've reopened the old steps down to the tunnel under the station. With the "New entrance" being from the lower side, from the car park "that will be built" at the far end of Macks, near Stoney Royd Cemetery.
 
It's the newer "stations", Bramley & Low Moor(wooden platforms) that have dictated the length of the trains.

I find that astonishing: aren't the platforms built to a standard length, ie the length of the longest train?
 

robjh

Legendary Member
Update to my own post (below) : this wasn't a redundant stock movement, but a diversion of ECML trains via Ely on that day. I guess if I'd looked carefully I would have seen passengers on that train.
This came through Foxton, near Cambridge, as I was waiting for a train yesterday morning. It is a class 67 hauling a complete class 91 + driving trailer class 82 ECML train set - I assume this is decommissioned stock being moved to sidings at Ely for storage.
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robjh

Legendary Member
I still think if class 91's as "New"...
Me too, as I do the 90s. The Greater Anglia ones are due to be replaced imminently by new Stadler class 745 bimodal units, and in the meantime the remaining locomotives are looking rather uncared for - this one was at Stratford on the 4th of January with a taped-over headlight and collision damage on the end nearest the camera.
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Bridge plate, on the footbridge at Normanton Station

There was a 'track-crossing' there. but those are (I understand) being phased out
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This is the bridge; https://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/5417792

July '12
Returning with the Scarborough Spa Express, I think?
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NorthernDave

Never used Über Member
I find that astonishing: aren't the platforms built to a standard length, ie the length of the longest train?

Oh that's nothing (but don't forget that up here in the frozen North we've had years of a 2-car 144 being the best we could hope for...). Brand new station have been opened at Low Moor, Kirkstall Forge and Apperley Bridge in West Yorkshire in the last few years at a cost of tens of millions of £s, yet despite 4 or 5 trains per hour passing in either direction, there has only been track capacity to timetable one stopping train an hour each way.
A new park & ride station is currently being built at Thorpe Park on the Leeds - York line between Garforth and Cross Gates despite passengers already being unable to board at either of those two stations at the peaks and long standing capacity issues precluding running any more stopping trains on that line. Trains that used to stop at those stations now run through non-stop "to improve reliability". There is speculation that once Thorpe Park opens, services will be reduced further at Cross Gates, letting it wither on the vine.
Unbelievably, plans have now been lodged to build another new station near the White Rose Centre on the Leeds - Huddersfield - Manchester line a few hundred yards from the existing station at Cottingley, which will face exactly the same issues as that line is apparently already beyond capacity.
 

classic33

Leg End Member
Oh that's nothing (but don't forget that up here in the frozen North we've had years of a 2-car 144 being the best we could hope for...). Brand new station have been opened at Low Moor, Kirkstall Forge and Apperley Bridge in West Yorkshire in the last few years at a cost of tens of millions of £s, yet despite 4 or 5 trains per hour passing in either direction, there has only been track capacity to timetable one stopping train an hour each way.
A new park & ride station is currently being built at Thorpe Park on the Leeds - York line between Garforth and Cross Gates despite passengers already being unable to board at either of those two stations at the peaks and long standing capacity issues precluding running any more stopping trains on that line. Trains that used to stop at those stations now run through non-stop "to improve reliability". There is speculation that once Thorpe Park opens, services will be reduced further at Cross Gates, letting it wither on the vine.
Unbelievably, plans have now been lodged to build another new station near the White Rose Centre on the Leeds - Huddersfield - Manchester line a few hundred yards from the existing station at Cottingley, which will face exactly the same issues as that line is apparently already beyond capacity.
Next time you go to Shipley, note that the guard has to go back over ten foot from the platform edge, on Platform 3, to see either end of the train, and back to the fence, on Platform 4, to try and see both ends.

The track was moved out to accommodate the previous rolling stock, and can just about accommodate current rolling stock. Similar gap and height problems.
 
'Bowers Halt' (Junction)
Allerton Bywater

North Eastern Railway (now known as 'The Lines')

Leeds Road (Allerton Bywater to the left)
IF, it was connected, & not built upon, the track behind me would pass the site of Ledston Station, & pass under Barnsdale Road (Castleford - HookMoor - 'Peckfield Bar' - Aberford road)
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Looking towards Kippax & Garforth
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Now footpath/bridleway/cycleway

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http://www.lostrailwayswestyorkshire.co.uk/Castleford Garforth.htm

https://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/3283247

The line crossed Leeds Road. by the white houses, up the hill, on the right;
https://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/4447933
https://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/3283225


https://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/#zoom=16&lat=53.7526&lon=-1.3795&layers=10&b=1
 

NorthernDave

Never used Über Member
https://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/new...new-trains-needing-repairs-already-1-10205184

Northern have admitted that a number of their 52 new trains have already broken down and been taken out of service. A member of Northern staff has told the Yorkshire Post that maintenance issues with the new rolling stock, rather than older trains, are causing cancellations across the Northern network.

The full depressing tale is at the link above...bring back the Pacers.
 
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