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Badger_Boom

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York
Not that you'd build a Spitfire in your shed...
Peter Arnold says 'hold my beer'.

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classic33

Leg End Member
If anyone is interested there seems to be a B52 currently on a nice trip from Fairford out over the Baltic and has done a big loop around Kaliningrad

Wonder if Vlad has noticed??
This one?
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TheDoctor

Noble and true, with a heart of steel
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They are a lot more complex than they seem!

Agreed, but if you can overhaul a car engine you could probably do a Merlin. The bits are bigger and there's more of them, but it's just a petrol engine. Now try dealing with four jets.
Control cables for the flight surfaces are easier than fly-by-wire systems.
And so on. It's not like building an Ikea bookcase, sure, but it's fundamentally doable.
Anyway, we're OT so I'll stop before I have to threadban myself.
 
Agreed, but if you can overhaul a car engine you could probably do a Merlin. The bits are bigger and there's more of them, but it's just a petrol engine. Now try dealing with four jets.
Control cables for the flight surfaces are easier than fly-by-wire systems.
And so on. It's not like building an Ikea bookcase, sure, but it's fundamentally doable.
Anyway, we're OT so I'll stop before I have to threadban myself.

What I was referring to was the Hurricane airframe. " Not all of the fuselage tubes are the same dimensions making mass production hard". I was quoting from a book on the Hurricane. All of the tubes would then be bolted together using fishplates.
 

gbb

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Location
Peterborough
Agreed, but if you can overhaul a car engine you could probably do a Merlin. The bits are bigger and there's more of them, but it's just a petrol engine. Now try dealing with four jets.
Control cables for the flight surfaces are easier than fly-by-wire systems.
And so on. It's not like building an Ikea bookcase, sure, but it's fundamentally doable.
Anyway, we're OT so I'll stop before I have to threadban myself.

Dad was airframes on Vulcans and as a kid, he took me inside one (decommissioned training airframe on a quiet airfield)
As I scanned inside, I asked...how on earth does everyone know how to fix it all ?
He talked about something like a 7 part bible...engines, avionics, airframes etc etc...everything is documented, tells you exactly what you need to do and how to do it.
I'd assume this '7 part bible'...would be a whole library of manuals and documents.
 

TheDoctor

Noble and true, with a heart of steel
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It would, but the lack of documentation isn't what has grounded Vulcans.
It's a lack of traceable and certified parts and consumables, a lack of design authority support, and the resulting lack of CAA certification. Amongst many other things.
Sadly, all this and more applies to Concorde.
 
It would, but the lack of documentation isn't what has grounded Vulcans.
It's a lack of traceable and certified parts and consumables, a lack of design authority support, and the resulting lack of CAA certification. Amongst many other things.
Sadly, all this and more applies to Concorde.

It is amazing how the Americans can keep their aircraft flying for so long , B52's F15's. Ours seem to get destroyed before anyone can change their minds!
 

gbb

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Peterborough
It is amazing how the Americans can keep their aircraft flying for so long , B52's F15's. Ours seem to get destroyed before anyone can change their minds!

Cost I guess dictates it. I'd assume they could keep the Vulcan fleet flying if they'd wanted to, but it would have been exorbitant, probably just the same as the B52s are to keep in the air. I suspect the Americans have deeper pockets.
And then, do they (Vulcans) have a strategic use anymore. The B52s can cover the globe, as we are all part of NATO, what's the point of them you could argue.

I do miss them mind....
 
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