The new improved Lance Armstrong discussion thread.*

[Red Light]

Smacked of a deal to me, you resign as Chairman and we will honour the Livestrong contract.

They kept quiet on what the pay-off for termination was.

 

[Red Light]

And this is a really enlightening piece interviewing Prentice Steffan, the doctor who resigned from USPS rather than be involved in doping, and who has been a major advocate for striking off the doctors involved, 'no-needle' policies and much more.

Resigned in 1996 it should be mentioned after a year with the team so not there during Armstrong's residency. And see my earlier post about his little money making scheme for him, Dave Walsh and Emma O'Reilly. Well big money making actually.

 

[Erratic]

Expect a few more to follow suite as the legal men tie up the loose ends and reach their conclusions over contracts, same with UCI - feel sorry for his kids, hope they are protected from all this.

 

[ufkacbln]

Nah. f*** him. When the dust settles I fear we will discover that Mr Armstrong's shenanegans have irreparably damaged our beloved sport in the eyes of the general public. He can fester in the self-made hell of his own shame and embarassment for all eternity as far as I'm concerned.

He was not the only rider doping, nor was USPS the only team.

 

[Crosstrailer]

Resigned in 1996 it should be mentioned after a year with the team so not there during Armstrong's residency. And see my earlier post about his little money making scheme for him, Dave Walsh and Emma O'Reilly. Well big money making actually.

Red Light, Straight question - do you honestly believe Lance Armstrong is innocent and is not a doper ? Its a Yes or No answer.......

 

[Dayvo]

Red Light, Straight question - do you honestly believe Lance Armstrong is innocent and is not a doper ? Its a Yes or No answer.......

No chance!

 

[laurence]

Just found a very interesting store on the web of documents relating to LA. They include this one with David Walsh which is a proposal to take down LA as a very profitable (financially) exercise from a team doctor (who worked on the USPS team in 1996). Some quotes from the email trail:

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Puts David Walsh and Emma O'Reilly in a somewhat different light.

odd that find any stories against LA unbelievable unless they can be proved beyond a reasonable doubt, yet you believe these emails are real and based a defence on them.

 

[rich p]

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/greipel-voices-support-of-usada-investigation

Good for Greipel!

 

[DogTired]

I wish him well. Drugs or no drugs, most pro cyclists could not have held a candle to him.
Steve

He was an average cyclist - check out his TdF results. Then smashing everyone out of the blue. He has an average VO2 max and an average lung capacity.

Plenty did beat him. The only thing special about him was his drive to find the best PEDs and PED administrator.

The only way pro cyclist would hold a candle to Lance was if it was a small effigy.

 

[400bhp]

Geoff thomas wrote..."@lancearmstrong please for your sake, come clean. If not yours, for the millions you have inspired over the last 15+ years."

If the chap has any dignity at all then he has to come clean.

Take a few corporations down with him too, plus at lease one governing body.

But, your earlier post might be right Dayvo

 

[400bhp]

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/greipel-voices-support-of-usada-investigation

Good for Greipel!

Lets hope thiss opens up the box for others.

 

[Buddfox]

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/greipel-voices-support-of-usada-investigation

Good for Greipel!

Yeah, that's excellent work - outside of the UK, the first 'big name' to speak out properly? Would be great if e.g. Gilbert did the same, for example.

 

[laurence]

i doubt he'll come clean... he thrives on having someone to fight against - the perpetually abused fighting back. he will view this as another fight, they're all out to get him, a witch-hunt.

he always insisted the french hated him - yet i never witnessed that in all the years i saw the TdF there. everyone was against him, without any evidence to suggest this was true.

he lives in his world, he is Baron Munchausen/Don Quixotehe, he is fighting the good fight - in his mind. the more i watched him over the years the more i disliked him, his lies, his use of the press to bully and belittle others, his abuse of power. you could see the deluded man emerging from the 'hero' and once you saw the emperor's new clothes, you realised he was naked.

personally i hope someone investigates his claims that during his comeback he was riding for free... i was pretty sure he received a whopping fee to start the TDU. again, more lies.

did he ever tell the truth?

 

[Happiness Stan]

He was not the only rider doping, nor was USPS the only team.

Surely you recognise this quote:
A "serial" cheat who led "the most sophisticated, professionalised and successful doping programme that sport has ever seen".

He was the Don of Doping and treated cycling like his own personal fiefdom. And he lied, bullied, intimidated, and bribed to keep it that way.

 

[ufkacbln]

Surely you recognise this quote:
A "serial" cheat who led "the most sophisticated, professionalised and successful doping programme that sport has ever seen".

He was the Don of Doping and treated cycling like his own personal fiefdom. And he lied, bullied, intimidated, and bribed to keep it that way.

... and where does that quote say he was the only one?