The new improved Lance Armstrong discussion thread.*

[007fair]

As a reformed cheat.I would say he is perfectly qualified. "To catch a thief" and all that.

I think he could help. But not president - there would be always that doubt that he could be swayed like we was before.

Luke 15:7

Hmmm ..forgiveness is one thing. Awarding failure with presidency is another. I'm not saying he should n't get involved.. just not be in charge

 

[DogTired]

Luke 15:7

I not sure repenting in the biblical sense equates to confessing-when-confronted-with-clear-evidence-of-your-crimes-in-a-French-Police-interview-room. And you get to keep the spoils of your sins.

 

[DogTired]

As an ex cheat he should never be the president. It should be someone like Greg Lemond, Betsy Andreu or Scott Mercier, Bassons.. people who stood up when the pressure was greatest and therefore proved their integrity.

Chris Boardman. Great at politics. Innovative. He's got the 'enterprise view'. Done TdF, time trials, involved on the track. The LA/UCI/TdF stuff overshadows the fact that the UCI doesnt just 'do' the TdF.

 

[dellzeqq]

LANCE ARMSTRONG: If you have a doping offence or you test positive, it goes without saying that you're fired from all your contracts. Not just the team, but there's numerous contracts that I have that would all go away.
JEFFREY TILLOTSON: Sponsorship agreements, for example?
LANCE ARMSTRONG: All of them. And the faith of all the cancer survivors around the world. So everything I do off of the bike would go away too.
And don't think for a second I don't understand that. It's not about money for me. Everything. It's also about the faith that people have put in me over the years. So all of that would be erased.
So I don't need it to say in a contract you're fired if you test positive. That's not as important as losing the support of hundreds of millions of people.

 

[Crackle]

Yet, as his career disappears before his eyes, Lance Armstrong, seven times winner of the Tour de France, is still protesting his innocence.
Not really. His career is simply moving on

I fear you're right. I thought it would be enough to see him exposed but now I'm filling with a slow outrage that he's showing no contrition and worse he's still playing the moral hero and feel some despair that people think that it's OK to hold up as an idol someone as morally vacuous as Armstrong. Whilst at the same time his sponsors, far from moving to distance themselves, continue the symbiotic feeding off the profits of his false idolatory.

Crackle 52:1022

Glad I got that off my chest.

 

[007fair]

Chris Boardman. Great at politics. Innovative. He's got the 'enterprise view'. Done TdF, time trials, involved on the track. The LA/UCI/TdF stuff overshadows the fact that the UCI doesnt just 'do' the TdF.

Good shout He should be a candidate too. Him and G Obree?!

 

[007fair]

LANCE ARMSTRONG: If you have a doping offence or you test positive, it goes without saying that you're fired from all your contracts. Not just the team, but there's numerous contracts that I have that would all go away.
JEFFREY TILLOTSON: Sponsorship agreements, for example?
LANCE ARMSTRONG: All of them. And the faith of all the cancer survivors around the world. So everything I do off of the bike would go away too.
And don't think for a second I don't understand that. It's not about money for me. Everything. It's also about the faith that people have put in me over the years. So all of that would be erased.
So I don't need it to say in a contract you're fired if you test positive. That's not as important as losing the support of hundreds of millions of people.

Just astounding ... kinda makes you think he must be innocent !

 

[raindog]

two page interview with Bassons
http://bicycling.com/blogs/thisjustin/2012/10/15/bassons-people-now-see-i-wasn’t-lying/

 

[Flying_Monkey]

And now some other US cyclists plan to protest at Nike... perhaps it won't all be a matter of continued cashflow for Lance.

 

[User169]

And now some other US cyclists plan to protest at Nike... perhaps it won't all be a matter of continued cashflow for Lance.

Oakley aren't looking too clever either if the Australian docu is to be believed.

 

[Red Light]

And now some other US cyclists plan to protest at Nike... perhaps it won't all be a matter of continued cashflow for Lance.

An half hearted protest ("We're still kind of talking about it. I don't know if 'do the right thing' will get it across well enough.") by a very minor figure in professional road racing. Did anyone here actually remember him?

 

[MichaelM]

An half hearted protest ("We're still kind of talking about it. I don't know if 'do the right thing' will get it across well enough.") by a very minor figure in professional road racing. Did anyone here actually remember him?

Can't say I remember him.

There again I can't say I actually remember Bassons or Simeoni either. Of course I know the story behind each, but I can't actually remember them.

I remember Armstrong though. And Ullrich, and Pantani and Virenque and Riis..

Do you honestly and genuinely believe that Armstrong raced clean?

 

[Smokin Joe]

An half hearted protest ("We're still kind of talking about it. I don't know if 'do the right thing' will get it across well enough.") by a very minor figure in professional road racing. Did anyone here actually remember him?

That's the accusation levelled at many riders who tried to expose the extent of doping in the peloton. No hoper, minor figure, a failure looking for excuses etc.

 

[Red Light]

That's the accusation levelled at many riders who tried to expose the extent of doping in the peloton. No hoper, minor figure, a failure looking for excuses etc.

He was racing in 1991-3. Was doping rampant in the peleton then?

 

[beastie]

Good shout He should be a candidate too. Him and G Obree?!

Obree's the last person I would choose. Fraud, disorganized.......... hang on it might just work!