The new improved Lance Armstrong discussion thread.*

[Hont]

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The original spelling was correct.

Indeed. Corrected and clarified.

 

[DogTired]

I've just asked the Swiss government, via their website, if they are going to start an investigation into corruption in the UCI.

Great idea, but unless the crimes include forging cuckoo clocks or embezzling Toblerone I suspect they might not go for it.

 

[Red Light]

If I have to explain to you why pumping your body with damaging drugs (that HAVE killed people), self administering blood transfusions, untested wonder drugs, is dangerous, more dangerous that sleeping in a hypobaric chamber, then there's no point discussing.

I didn't ask about pumping your body full of damaging drugs or untested wonder drugs. I asked about autologous blood transfusions - which are not that risky

 

[dodgy]

I didn't ask about pumping your body full of damaging drugs or untested wonder drugs. I asked about autologous blood transfusions - which are not that risky

At risk of sounding like a teenager, whatever.

 

[rich p]

Not many surprises there.

No, true but elsewhere I saw LL Sanchez mentioned as a Ferrari client.
Leipheimer's statement also mentions him (Levi, that is) being seen by Ferrari at the same time as Popovych, Vino and Sky's very own Michael Rogers.

 

[dellzeqq]

UCI Statement on USADA reasoned decision
11.10.2012
The UCI has been advised by USADA that it’s reasoned decision and supporting material is available to view on its website (10th October 2012).
The UCI will examine all information received in order to consider issues of appeal and recognition, jurisdiction and statute of limitation, within the term of appeal of 21 days, as required by the World Anti-Doping Code.
The UCI will endeavour to provide a timely response and not to delay matters any longer than necessary.

 

[Red Light]

At risk of sounding like a teenager, whatever.

Yes, the standard teenager response to a question they don't want to answer.

 

[Noodley]

This is quite entertaining, trying to guess what bilge other posters are responding to

 

[Crosstrailer]

This is quite entertaining, trying to guess what bilge other posters are responding to

LOL Think somebody just turned on the bilge pump..........

 

[Red Light]

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/belgian-federation-forwards-bruyneel-charges-to-federal-prosecutor
The Belgian prosecutor may be looking into Bruyneel now.

Aren't KBWB jumping the gun a bit here? Bruyneel is contesting the accusations through the official USADA process yet KBWB seem to be talking of placing sanctions on him before his case is even heard.

 

[Noodley]

LOL Think somebody just turned on the bilge pump..........

It must be the "not following procedures" line and the "right to appeal" line that is being followed, given the responses. And I would guess at Red Light. Am I right?

 

[ohnovino]

I didn't ask about pumping your body full of damaging drugs or untested wonder drugs. I asked about autologous blood transfusions - which are not that risky

Didn't Riccardo Ricco nearly kill himself with an autologous blood transfusion?

 

[ohnovino]

Is it time to start a book on who will be doing jail time?

I'll have a fiver on Mr Armstrong himself, on multiple counts of perjury during the SCA court case.

 

[DogTired]

I didn't ask about pumping your body full of damaging drugs or untested wonder drugs. I asked about autologous blood transfusions - which are not that risky

Depends on how the blood was taken. And stored. And then re-infused.

Thats why hospitals emphasise using a sterile environment, proper storage facilities and sterile re-introduction when necessary. Not taking it out whenever, storing it in a domestic fridge and then hanging the blood-bags from hotel picture hooks when re-infusing.

Granted not as risky as jumping 50 foot onto a spike, but definitely risky enough to kill you.

google:
"risks of autologous blood transfusion"

 

[smutchin]

It must be the "not following procedures" line and the "right to appeal" line that is being followed, given the responses.

Now, apparently, it's the Belgian cycling authorities who "aren't following procedure" because they've shown an interest in the evidence published by the USADA. Funny that - a cycling authority being interested in reports of doping activities by an individual whose licence they issued. Whatever next?

It looked to me like the Cycling News report said they were going to "investigate further" but I must need new reading glasses because others have read the same story and concluded that the Belgians have already decided to ban Bruyneel for life.

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