Pistorious may be otherwise engaged john!
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Pistorious may be otherwise engaged john!
Not ignored at all.....
Simply outside the content of the post.
The post was about whether he gains from the team investigation and could it prevent further action against individuals
This is worth a read, written by a lawyer specialising in whistleblower cases.
U.S. vs. Lance Armstrong: Understanding the Latest in the Floyd Landis Whistleblower Case
Some quotes that answered some of my questions....
U.S. vs. Lance Armstrong: Understanding the Latest in the Floyd Landis Whistleblower Case
Some quotes that answered some of my questions....
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/armstrong-facing-two-further-lawsuits
More litigation. C'mon, give the guy a break....
More litigation. C'mon, give the guy a break....
Kins
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Eeer nope! Long as he has two shillings to rub together I think there is open season on him. He's gone from winner to whiner now. Oh woe is me..... etc etc. Sod off.
deptfordmarmoset
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It looks like France might be revoking his Légion d'honneur too
Sympathy for Lance? Aaaahhh-mstrong.
Sympathy for Lance? Aaaahhh-mstrong.
Well honour and Armstrong are two words not heard in the same breath these days!
ColinJ
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I have a friend who would not listen to me 4 or 5 years ago when I was ranting on about Armstrong. 'Lance' was not a drugs cheat. He'd read "It's not about the bike", and no way would Armstrong risk his health after what he'd been through.
The years passed, and somewhere along the line my pal changed his tune. He never admitted that he had done it, but he went quiet for a while, and then eventually emerged as a fellow critic.
The thing is, he still believes that Big Mig was clean! He was able to do what he did because he has huge lungs, a 'special' heart and so on. Let's face it, the guy was the same size as me but he could still give a drugged-up Pantani a tough time in the mountains. The numbers didn't add up ...
At some point in the future, my friend will be telling me that he always knew that Big Mig was too good to be true!
(I believe that the numbers for Lemond, Evans and Wiggins do add up so I'd be upset if they turn out to be cheaters too.)
The years passed, and somewhere along the line my pal changed his tune. He never admitted that he had done it, but he went quiet for a while, and then eventually emerged as a fellow critic.
The thing is, he still believes that Big Mig was clean! He was able to do what he did because he has huge lungs, a 'special' heart and so on. Let's face it, the guy was the same size as me but he could still give a drugged-up Pantani a tough time in the mountains. The numbers didn't add up ...
At some point in the future, my friend will be telling me that he always knew that Big Mig was too good to be true!
(I believe that the numbers for Lemond, Evans and Wiggins do add up so I'd be upset if they turn out to be cheaters too.)
deptfordmarmoset
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On the other hand, his dishonour is legion...
Acceptance Insurance is a new name to me. I want to read more of it. Were they an SCA underwriter or was this a completely separate policy? If the latter, Tygart's words of 'organised conspiracy' ring even truer perhaps. The whole saga begins to look more about financial scam/sting as it does about doping to win the TdF.
The FRS lawsuit actually makes me smile. False claims in advertising?! Whatever next!
That does smack of bandwagon stuff! I can't see it succeeding since because, to be serious for a moment, if one looks at it legally the complainant would have to prove the claims made by the sports drink manufacturer were false.
That Armstrong doped is fact - that he won the TdF because of the dope and NOT the sports drink might be somewhat harder to prove!
The FRS lawsuit actually makes me smile. False claims in advertising?! Whatever next!
That does smack of bandwagon stuff! I can't see it succeeding since because, to be serious for a moment, if one looks at it legally the complainant would have to prove the claims made by the sports drink manufacturer were false.That Armstrong doped is fact - that he won the TdF because of the dope and NOT the sports drink might be somewhat harder to prove!
StuAff
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RE Mig: Was he 'special'?...er, yes, a resting heart rate of 28 bpm, huge lung capacity, and so on. The guy is still in great shape in his late forties. Did he build on that with doping? Even if it was 'only' the old-style, casual 'preparation', I'd now say 'yup'. Hard to say he was clean with some of those performances, the links to Francesco Conconi…
Back to the legal case...
If the USPS / Federal case is found it will be against all team members and monies recovered twill also be from all those who participated
Firstly the case will be against all the riders, it will not only be Armstrong repaying huge amounts of cash
There are no fast figures as to how much was paid by USPS / Tailwind etc but at that point a successful team member being paid a $50 - 60 k salary was realising some $160,000 including bonuses.
Question gets even more complex when that money was paid in part by Armstrong who gave each ride $50,000 dollars in one year
Even if recovery is attempted it will simply I suspect be bogged down in years of financial claims, counter-claims and jiggery-pokery
I think all the dreams of a bankrupt Armstrong are going to lead to a disappointment
If the USPS / Federal case is found it will be against all team members and monies recovered twill also be from all those who participated
Firstly the case will be against all the riders, it will not only be Armstrong repaying huge amounts of cash
There are no fast figures as to how much was paid by USPS / Tailwind etc but at that point a successful team member being paid a $50 - 60 k salary was realising some $160,000 including bonuses.
Question gets even more complex when that money was paid in part by Armstrong who gave each ride $50,000 dollars in one year
Even if recovery is attempted it will simply I suspect be bogged down in years of financial claims, counter-claims and jiggery-pokery
I think all the dreams of a bankrupt Armstrong are going to lead to a disappointment
