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[rich p]

..and now Roberto USPS Heras has had his 2005 Vuelta ban/win overturned buy the Spanish courts. Blinkin' 'eck!

 

[thom]

Menchov, Boogerd and Dekker
Additional names in Leipheimer's testimony - blood doping in Austria with Rasmussen apparently.
So rich, the 2005 Vuelta might get to Sastre eventually if Heras and Menchov get their results taken away in the wake of the related testimony.

 

[Noodley]

It matters not if it is awarded to heras or Menchov, or anyone else for that matter - they were all doped.
None of the titles from the 90s-00s mean feck all, they were won by cheating. I'm sure they are all quite happy with the riches their cheating brought them, at the expense of clean riders and the sport..and the fans. Or at least the fans that care about ethics. And fair play.

 

[ufkacbln]

Oh, are you still around?

...and laughing at some of the contributions

 

[Noodley]

...and laughing at some of the contributions

Nobber

 

[ufkacbln]

Nobber

My point proven unequivocally

 

[Noodley]

Ditto

 

[thom]

Almost time for Xmas day footie in no man's land

Blood-bags for goalposts ? Has anyone brought a ball ?

 

[thom]

Santa comes early for Lance : Has he been good or bad this year ?
The Sunday Times think bad and want $1.5 million.

 

[rich p]

Santa comes early for Lance : Has he been good or bad this year ?
The Sunday Times think bad and want $1.5 million.

Poor Lance and he never even tested positive

 

[Aperitif]

Santa comes early for Lance : Has he been good or bad this year ?
The Sunday Times think bad and want $1.5 million.

One of the 'Comments' underneath the article:

Ha ha
A Rupert Murdoch-owned newspaper is accusing someone else of making deliberately false representations.
You can't make this $hit up.

Oh - and here's another:

He did nothing worse than game the corrupt system better than anyone else, all the while being a better, harder working cyclist than any of his mostly cheating competitors. Sure, he deserves to go down in flames and return money, but this press generated vitriol is way out of proportion relative to how other cheats have been treated. Bully? Come on, they were grown men as greedy for success as Lamce at any cost... How is he to blame for that? The "bully" defense is so little girlish...

 

[Noodley]

Just goes to show that the nobbers will still rally in defence of the nobber-in-chief

 

[johnr]

I vote Noodley for the midfield enforcer in the Xmas Day kick around Thom proposed

 

[rich p]

For those muppets who still plead that Armstrong never tested positive ...

...the bio passport has defeated Barredo...

... http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/barredo-retires-in-light-of-biological-passport-violations-case

 

[Hotblack Desiato]

My new book, 'The Secret Race', has a phrase new to me:

As everyone else will know, it's the Spanish (almost) for riding on bread and water and no Edgar or anything else of that sort. Sadly the jersey was a limited edition (did they think only a few of us ride pan y agua?!) and sold out weeks ago.

The book also surprised me by revealing that witnesses claim there was a day when phArmstrong failed a dope test. Except after negotiations, he didn't. What it is to have money/power!

It's a fascinating read, if slightly depressing as it reveals the influence a powerful personality can have in coercing others to do what they know is wrong.