The new improved Lance Armstrong discussion thread.*

[thom]

I *heart* Jeremy Roy.

Yeah, I think it shows much about how the culture of French cycling has changed since Festina.

 

[Flying_Monkey]

Excellent letter, great attitude.

 

[slowmotion]

Interesting to see this feature from CBS on Betsy Andreu.
She told you so

One woman knew the truth beneath the lies that held Lance Armstrong at the top of the mountain in cycling. But when she refused to play along, she paid a high price

I find that film quite disturbing. Other clips have shown Mr Armstrong trying to control the media and many press conferences, but bullying at a personal level, if it is true, sinks to a new low. Horrid.

 

[PpPete]

An open letter from Jeremy Roy.

Two thoughts....
Why isnt Sky a member of the MPCC group he mentions?
Why the feck, at the bottom of the English translation do I find the following advert:

EPO Cyclist Supplements​

Fastest Way to Increase Your Endurance and Speed - Guaranteed!​

www.EPOBoost.com​

 

[PpPete]

Two thoughts....
Why isnt Sky a member of the MPCC group he mentions?
Why the feck, at the bottom of the English translation do I find the following advert:

EPO Cyclist Supplements​

Fastest Way to Increase Your Endurance and Speed - Guaranteed!​

www.EPOBoost.com​

The ad has now changed....

 

[thom]

Two thoughts....
Why isnt Sky a member of the MPCC group he mentions?
Why the feck, at the bottom of the English translation do I find the following advert:

EPO Cyclist Supplements​

Fastest Way to Increase Your Endurance and Speed - Guaranteed!​

www.EPOBoost.com​

1'st question : Good question - I don't know - it looks like they are setting themselves a little apart from the rest which is slightly anti-social
2'nd question : it's to do with cookies and the profile one of the ad managing engines is building up for you, so they are targeting you for epo because of where you have been looking on the net and is not the specific website as such.
Is there something in your past you want to share with us ?
Perhaps I can refer you here ;-)

Edit : to be clear, I'm just teasing - I think that add targets anyone who goes to cycling sites based upon their cookie history

 

[User169]

2'nd question : it's to do with cookies and the profile one of the ad managing engines is building up for you, so they are targeting you for epo because of where you have been looking on the net and is not the specific website as such.
Is there something in your past you want to share with us ?

 

[smutchin]

Why isnt Sky a member of the MPCC group he mentions?

I don't wish to come across as cynical, especially because Jeremy Roy is obviously a top bloke as well as being a top cyclist, but two points:

1. AG2R are members of the MPCC and one of their riders (Steve Houanard) was recently suspended for a doping offence. There's a lot more to having an anti-doping policy than signing yet another piece of paper (remember all those teams and riders that signed up to similar charters after the Festina affair?).

2. The Swiss terrorists/clowns/liars are listed as supporters of the MPCC. And we all know how vehemently anti-doping they are.

Really, the question you need to ask is: why would Sky sign up to the MPCC? Clearly they already go a lot further than the MPCC with their internal anti-doping controls.

(Edit: and assuming Sky never use corticosteroids, that would make Jeremy Roy's assertion that only MPCC teams have such a policy factually incorrect. We only have their word for it in any case - that goes for any team, whether they've signed up to the MPCC or not.)

d.

 

[Flying_Monkey]

Ex-WADA medical officer says WADA also helped cover up Armstrong's doping.

 

[Noodley]

I'm a big fan of FdJ and Jeremy Roy, but find some of his comments very disappointing and echoing the sentiments of many denying dopers.

 

[deptfordmarmoset]

Benoît Joachin regrets not having worked with ''genius'' Ferrari and questions the seriousness of USADA's report because it relied on US testimonies and they didn't ask him anything. (HERE in French)

 

[ufkacbln]

What TF are you on about?

This from the WADA:

Former World Anti-Doping Agency medical director Alain Garnier has lamented “the immense failure of the fight against doping”, saying that “the responsibility for this lies with the International Cycling Union and WADA.”
Speaking on the French Rfi radio network, Garnier said that the situation has got so bad that, “The sporting movement should not be trusted with the battle against doping.”

 

[ColinJ]

2'nd question : it's to do with cookies and the profile one of the ad managing engines is building up for you, so they are targeting you for epo because of where you have been looking on the net and is not the specific website as such.

I think that particular ad is based on the content of the webpage rather than your search history. I had not been searching for 'epo' but I still saw the same ad. My stalker Michael Parkinson, however, definitely has access to my search history. I searched for information on Sun Life about a month ago and now I am blitzed by SL ads featuring MP wherever I go, sometimes with 3 or 4 such ads per page!

 

[smutchin]

I'm a big fan of FdJ and Jeremy Roy, but find some of his comments very disappointing and echoing the sentiments of many denying dopers.

Agreed, to some extent, but in his case it sounds more like naivety than obfuscation.

d.

 

[Noodley]

I have read it a few times now and, despite agreeing that some of it sounds like he is very naive, I am more disappointed each time I read it.