The Football.....

[ozboz]

In Manny tonight !!!
To be fair I've been travelling around Britain since Xmas , just happened to be at 'ar Kids !

 

[ozboz]

Yer yER YESssssss !!!
Bloooo Mooooon !!

 

[accountantpete]

Yer yER YESssssss !!!
Bloooo Mooooon !!

Were you the Linesman?

 

[ozboz]

No not me , perhaps it was the same one that missed the offside in the other semi , he must go to spec savers , we can't have these linesmen making mistakes now can we ?

 

[SpokeyDokey]

As above really - it cancelled the first dubious decision during the preceding leg.

Everton feel hard done by as they had an offside goal against them when playing us (CFC) last week so you can understand their frustration - although Martinez is in denial re the first leg incident.

We had a stonewall penalty disallowed at the weekend that was a definite penalty to the whole world apart from Wenger and the inarticulate pundit Souness - how the hell he got a job where talking coherently is a key requirement is beyond me.

I'm in favour of video technology and look forward to the results of the 2017 trials - FA and SFA cups if I remember rightly (?).

I've been in favour since Ovrebo denied us four cast iron pen's (he later confessed to his errors) against Barca in the CL Semi in 2009 - one of the most atrocious displays of refereeing I have ever witnessed. At the time I did wonder if money had changed hands esp' after watching Pique look amazed that a pen' was not awarded after he handled the ball.

Maybe just for key incidents it would work well - many managers now advocating it apart from Pochettino who wants to respect the traditions of the game plus the most awful pundit on the planet Crookes who likes the talking points erroneous decisions raise. Pair of clowns imo - although Pochettino is proving to be a pretty fine manager to be fair.

 

[ozboz]

When I coached junior football at the pre season intro I always instilled to the players and parents that we would with out doubt win and lose games because if the match officials , that was some 15 odd years ago , simply , live with it , there is not a team that has suffered a loss due to error of judgement , until the FA , FIFA embrace the benifits that tech could dissolve the human errors we can only accept the decisions
made , I agree about Crookes an Souness !!

 

[Smokin Joe]

I'm against technology. It's the refereeing imperfections that help make the game what it is, all part of the fun.

 

[ozboz]

The problem we may have is corruption, tech could help prevent that to a degree as far as officials go ,

 

[SpokeyDokey]

I'm against technology. It's the refereeing imperfections that help make the game what it is, all part of the fun.

Well, we obviously have different views on this.

Put simply: I'd like to see results based purely on the skill and endeavour shown on the pitch by each team rather than a wrong call by a ref/lino - surely that is what the game is about? The referees etc are just necessary adjuncts to the game and should be neutral in terms of their effect on the outcome of any match.

To be honest I don't like to see my team benefit from a wrong decision in the same way that I don't like to see a gain.

In all competitions it is tragic to see all that hard work, skill & commitment disappear down the tube because of one wayward moment and it can make a complete mockery of the game.

I don't for one moment think that tennis/rugby has lost anything by having access to video tech' - if anything, the crowds love it and it may well add a fun element too as well as being 100% fair.

 

[SpokeyDokey]

Any sport where games are frequently settled by low margins on small numbers is always going to be vulnerable to being skewed by outlier events.

Agreed - that's why it's so important to minimise such events. Video replay is one such way. We are already seeing the benefits of goal line technology - ironically though, this circumstance is far less frequent than other potential game changers.

 

[MarkF]

I am against technology too, it is the human failings and the subsequent controversy that makes it so enjoyable for me, nobody talks about really good offside decisions! One think that would make me more happy than a Bradford City goal, is a perfectly good goal scored against us by Leeds, disallowed.

It's only a game of football, the ball was out of play, but nobody's legs dropped off or owt!

 

[SpokeyDokey]

I am against technology too, it is the human failings and the subsequent controversy that makes it so enjoyable for me, nobody talks about really good offside decisions! One think that would make me more happy than a Bradford City goal, is a perfectly good goal scored against us by Leeds, disallowed.

It's only a game of football, the ball was out of play, but nobody's legs dropped off or owt!

So (bit of a stretch I know) we have Bradford vs Leeds FA Cup final @ Wembley:

Bradford put in two perfectly legal marginally onside goals but they are disallowed.

Then Leeds put in a marginally offside goal that is allowed and walk off with the trophy.

All three could have been rectified with VR.

And you'd be happy with that outcome whilst you enjoyed the controversy?

 

[deptfordmarmoset]

I am against technology too, it is the human failings and the subsequent controversy that makes it so enjoyable for me, nobody talks about really good offside decisions! One think that would make me more happy than a Bradford City goal, is a perfectly good goal scored against us by Leeds, disallowed.

It's only a game of football, the ball was out of play, but nobody's legs dropped off or owt!

And I reckon football has a problem with authority. From FIFA down to that bastard in black, it's riddled with it.

 

[Haitch]

One think that would make me more happy than a Bradford City goal, is a perfectly good goal scored against us by Leeds, disallowed.

Excellent!

 

[Roadhump]

As above really - it cancelled the first dubious decision during the preceding leg.

Everton feel hard done by as they had an offside goal against them when playing us (CFC) last week so you can understand their frustration - although Martinez is in denial re the first leg incident.

We do indeed feel hard done by. Not only was there the goal at Chelsea, but there was also the non-penalty against Stoke and the 2 handballs by Ashley Williams on Sunday, the first in the build up to Swansea's second goal and the second in the penalty area but ignored by the ref. Then again there was the penalty City should have had in the league game a couple of weeks ago, which partly balances things up.

Fair play to City @ozboz they are in the final on merit, I thought we were the better team in the first leg overall but they were the better team, by a greater margin in the second. In relation to their second goal, it stands out more than Lukaku's offside goal because offside decisions are an every day occurrence whereas balls being that far over the line not being called are quite rare. Good luck to City in the final.

As for Martinez being in denial, these decisions are giving him excuse after excuse behind which to hide from his own shortcomings. I have said it before and people argue he is a good manager who gets his teams playing good football, but I have to disagree, he is inept. His teams are disjointed, recklessly cavalier and can't defend for toffee (note the ironic pun). His overall record in his 6.5 seasons as a PL manager is at best mediocre and more realistically is consistently poor. At Wigan the goals for increased marginally, but the against column rocketed, the same is happening at Everton where we have conceded 110 goals in all competitions since the beginning of last season. He is clueless and tries to hide that fact with buzzword bingo verbal gymnastics in his interviews. Opinion is mounting against him at Everton, if we don't beat Carlisle on Sunday, his time could well be up.