If you buy Saints players you get what you get. Aspirational upper mid table ability. this is more about Liverpool fear than anything else. Liverpool, Arsenal and Spurs are part of a top six that simply cannot afford to allow anyone else to the party so cynically they weaken us by buying our players. Lallana is no better than he was with us, neither is Clyne. Lovren is a comedy act, and a sentimental transfer to Anfield effectively ended Ricky Lambert's career. Even Mane is the same, World beater on his day but mightily inconsistent. One manager and eight players have left since 2014 to those three clubs. The sheer arrogance of Liverpool fans beggars belief. The fact that we've made so much money from them gives them the right to get arsy because we won't sell Van Dijk to them. I have nothing against people from Merseyside, I grew up with staunch Blues in Hampshire, but I have nothing but contempt for the victim mentality of the red half.