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Roadhump

Time you enjoyed wasting was not wasted
Anfield is a crumbling shambles of a stadium. Some of the views and prices charged for away fans are insulting

They are rebuilding the main stand at the tin mine, and it will look like a huge horrible plastic monstrosity (at present it is just a big horrible monstrosity). Apparently they intend to build another tier above the current Anfield Road end where away supporters are currently accommodated, and I wouldn't mind betting prices will increase even more, the Yanks are ruthless business people and any notion that they care about the fans is very wide of the mark. To be fair, Goodison is a crumbling shambles as well, I remember an away fan who had sat for 90 minutes in the Lower Bullens comparing it to watching the match through a letter box.

I was in the away end recently with my brother in law (a Liverpool fan. From Crawley...)

A Liverpool fan from Crawley.....how creepy......boom boom!! Makes a change from , Cornwall or Norway I suppose.
 

PaulB

Legendary Member
Location
Colne
and I wouldn't mind betting prices will increase even more,

Whooo..someone's got an axe to grind! And I have my renewals in front of me and can tell you that I'd gladly take that bet. Still want to stick your money where your mouth is?
 
Scottish Championship 1st leg play-off tonight, Forfar v Stranraer.

First half stats: Forfar - Stranraer
Attempts at goal 10 - 1
Attempts on target 5 - 0
Corners 4 - 0

...you could almost write the script :sad:
 

Roadhump

Time you enjoyed wasting was not wasted
Whooo..someone's got an axe to grind! And I have my renewals in front of me and can tell you that I'd gladly take that bet. Still want to stick your money where your mouth is?

Blimey, the sun is shining :sun:and the fish are biting, and I wasn't even angling :becool:. If you think your owners are not part and parcel of the rampant greed in football, understand the Liverpool way and would never let you walk alone (YAWN), and you want to defend them when bitter blues have a go, good luck to you.

However. if you read my post carefully you will hopefully understand that whilst I poke a little fun at LFC (and also at EFC as it happens) I am making a point in support of football fans (LFC fans in this case) and the only real axe I wish to grind is with mega-rich owners of football club owners who, in the opinion of many, are in it for themselves and couldn't care less about fans, many of whom they are pricing out of the game. Your tickets might not have increased in price yet, but the new build isn't finished yet and I wouldn't be at all surprised if ticket prices increase, hence my betting reference. The only thing that might prevent, or slow down ticket price increases is growing pressure from fans groups such as the FSF, and possibly some politicians, and publicity about the huge amounts of TV cash going to clubs now.
 

PaulB

Legendary Member
Location
Colne
Blimey, the sun is shining :sun:and the fish are biting, and I wasn't even angling :becool:. If you think your owners are not part and parcel of the rampant greed in football, understand the Liverpool way and would never let you walk alone (YAWN), and you want to defend them when bitter blues have a go, good luck to you.

However. if you read my post carefully you will hopefully understand that whilst I poke a little fun at LFC (and also at EFC as it happens) I am making a point in support of football fans (LFC fans in this case) and the only real axe I wish to grind is with mega-rich owners of football club owners who, in the opinion of many, are in it for themselves and couldn't care less about fans, many of whom they are pricing out of the game. Your tickets might not have increased in price yet, but the new build isn't finished yet and I wouldn't be at all surprised if ticket prices increase, hence my betting reference. The only thing that might prevent, or slow down ticket price increases is growing pressure from fans groups such as the FSF, and possibly some politicians, and publicity about the huge amounts of TV cash going to clubs now.

I did read your post carefully and thought it was a cheap poke at best and a nasty insult at worst - another one contained there in your reply.

If ticket prices were 'pricing fans out of the game' how come every game has a full house watching and that there is a waiting list - at our stadium anyway - of more than fifteen years?

The new build will have been finished in time for the new season - the season where we have seen they are not increasing prices so I'll still take that bet. And if it goes up for the following season, that could be due to nothing more than inflation as there's been a price freeze for 2015/16.

While I am aware of the price discrepancy between England and Germany, as an example, it is a fact that all the 'big' English clubs see full houses at every game so what we are witnessing here is nothing more than capitalism at work. Go or don't go, there's the choice.
 

AndyRM

XOXO
Location
North Shields
Ah, it's May. That's why you're back getting all upset because someone criticised Liverpool...

So to sum up your season:

- Whimpered out of European competition
- Rodgers is still inept and talks rubbish (he's got one record, but not one to be happy about...)
- One win against the top 4
- Gerrard made an arse of himself again in an important match

Happy with that?

I'll accept I was wrong about finishing in the bottom 10, and possibly Rodgers' losing his job (though there's still time...)

Still, never mind, you've got all those memories!
 

PaulB

Legendary Member
Location
Colne
Deluded fools with the ability to play VHS recordings from the 1970s/80s?
I doubt it. I'd say more than half on our row are too young to be able to tell you what VHS meant, or was. There's a tendency for the auld ones to drop out and stop going and they're being replaced by young 'uns. Mainly. A mid 30s guy who sits in the seat in front of me brought his 5 year-old for his first game last Saturday. My lad hasn't stopped going since I first took him at five but my other son never got in to it really so he doesn't bother.
 

Roadhump

Time you enjoyed wasting was not wasted
I did read your post carefully and thought it was a cheap poke at best and a nasty insult at worst - another one contained there in your reply.

Sorry if I hurt your feelings, but have you ever heard of banter? It's what a lot of football fans do - take cheap shots at each other, pull each others' legs.and take the mickey out of each others' teams, stadia etc. Maybe I should also apologise to myself, I did tell a nasty tale about Goodison Park, my team's ground, after all. You seem so sensitive about any scepticism regarding LFC's owners, I am beginning to think you might be John Henry himself.

If ticket prices were 'pricing fans out of the game' how come every game has a full house watching and that there is a waiting list - at our stadium anyway - of more than fifteen years?

True, attendances are high, but it is not as straightforward as that. I know many people who can no longer afford to go to football matches because of rising ticket prices, mainly fans of Everton and Liverpool because of where I live and work, but also fans of other teams, some go to the odd game, some can afford a season ticket but can't afford to take their kids so don't go any longer. At clubs like Liverpool, a lot of local fans have been priced out and out of town tourists have taken their place. Some people I know share a season ticket between 2,3 or 4 people, they pool the price. I have an Everton season ticket, I used to go to away games as well, but with the odd exception, I can no longer afford to do so because of the crazy prices.

It is not just about affordability either, it is also about exploitation and screwing as much from a captive audience as possible. Take a look at the FSF website and read about their campaigns to do with ticket prices. Are you aware of the recent boycott by your own fans of the away game at Hull in protest at ticket prices? Are you aware that the Everton players have decided to subsidise tickets for our away game at West Ham on 16th May, due to the ridiculous price of £55 each? Are you aware of the fantastic gesture by Steven Naismith in buying tickets for Everton games and distributing them to low paid, unemployed and homeless people who, believe it or not, have been priced out of the game?

The new build will have been finished in time for the new season - the season where we have seen they are not increasing prices so I'll still take that bet. And if it goes up for the following season, that could be due to nothing more than inflation as there's been a price freeze for 2015/16.

How much will tickets be in the new build, and are they comparable to existing seats? I can tell you that I know someone who rents a private box at LFC and has been told his rental will double, i.e. a 100% increase, some price freeze that .....next phase???

what we are witnessing here is nothing more than capitalism at work
That's my point really, and in the spirit of true capitalism at work, those nice businessmen you seem so keen to defend will screw every penny they can from you. They might not increase prices next season or the season after, current publicity and pressure on clubs to put some of the massive cash they are getting from TV may make that politically inadvisable at present, but as soon as the coast is clear, get ready to be fleeced. I could be wrong of course, your capitalists might be really nice people who care about other people, but then fans of their American sports franchises might disagree.
 

MarkF

Guru
Location
Yorkshire
Meanwhile.........after much speculation about how much BCFC would increase their ST prices for next season, they have actually reduced them, by 25%!

We sold 12500 at £199 (or less) so this season they are hoping for 15000 at £149, that's £6.50 a game, I can only assume this season's FA cup run has funded the decrease as everybody expected a £50 increase....
 
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