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Let's face it, Scottish football is pretty dire and has been for years. More's the pity because the English first division used to be brimming with quality Scots players and was all the better for it, they at least developed a loyalty to their adopted clubs unlike most of the foreign imports now who are always on the lookout for the next high bidder.
 
I remember Saint and Greavise always having a little go at Scottish keepers - What’s the difference between a Scottish goalie and a taxi driver?
The taxi driver only lets five in.

Fortunately for us Alan MacGregor seems to be quite good, and one of the few scots playing in the EPL. Shame he's injured at the moment. I like that after he was injured the end of last season it was "quite serious injury, he'll be out for at least 6 weeks". He played in the FA cup final on week 7.
 

AndyRM

XOXO
Location
North Shields
Celtic have been abject for a couple of seasons, Lennon played a bit of a blinder getting out when he did. Other clubs have lost the fear factor and play them like any other side.

I'm not sure I agree that Scottish football is 'dire'. A bit repetitive sure, but that's what you get if you've only got a twelve team top division. Personally I'd like to see it expanded to a 16 team league, with home and away fixtures, no split and 3 relegation spots (two up from the second division and a playoff between 3rd and 4th for the remaining spot). With muppets like Neil Doncaster in charge, my incredible plan will never happen.

As for Saint and Greavsie, their unfunny 'banter' is best left consigned to history. Scotland have had excellent keepers over the years. Were it not for his gubbed knee and the attentions of Jermaine Defoe (who wasn't even booked for deliberately hoofing him in the arm) Craig Gordon would be considered one of the best in the world. Still time actually, he's only 31.
 

MarkF

Guru
Location
Yorkshire
Something must have gone wrong recently, probably coaching, poor quality or not enough (same as in England I suppose where the "fault" is camouflaged by cash), Scotland has always been an excellent footballing nation producing a surprising amount of top level players. I don't believe their babies popped out from 1990 unable to kick a football straight, their kids will have the same potential that they always did.

It all comes down to cash, players who were not offered a new deal at L2 Bradford City went straight into the Scottish PL as "starters"....
 

PaulB

Legendary Member
Location
Colne
I remember Saint and Greavise always having a little go at Scottish keepers - What’s the difference between a Scottish goalie and a taxi driver?
The taxi driver only lets five in.

Fortunately for us Alan MacGregor seems to be quite good, and one of the few scots playing in the EPL. Shame he's injured at the moment. I like that after he was injured the end of last season it was "quite serious injury, he'll be out for at least 6 weeks". He played in the FA cup final on week 7.
I'll tell you what's wrong with one Scottish goalkeeper. My wife absolutely hates this guy. He was staying with his family at the same Majorca hotel as us not long after he'd retired but was best remembered as being Scotland's national keeper. Each morning, people would hang around the locked sun beds as they were unlocked at 8.30 every day. Well I don't lounge around the pool, I'm out running or on long bike rides so my wife goes down and collects her sun bed and chooses her position. Well my wife is 4' 10" tall and weighs less than seven stones while Mr. International is a huge unit but her size didn't stop the keeper from actually knocking her over off her feet and then he STEPPED OVER HER without a word of apology!

We always had a huge amount of dislike for him after that and his idiot wife thought she was some kind of WAG as she lay out all day every day with no sun cream and her skin went the most vivid red unhealthy colour imaginable. Well she wanted a tan but despite not having suitable skin, she was going back to Escosse as tanned as she possibly could. She'll be paying for that now, I would imagine. A bigger pair of objectionable aerosols (Sp) it would be harder to find.
 

AndyRM

XOXO
Location
North Shields
Something must have gone wrong recently, probably coaching, poor quality or not enough (same as in England I suppose where the "fault" is camouflaged by cash), Scotland has always been an excellent footballing nation producing a surprising amount of top level players. I don't believe their babies popped out from 1990 unable to kick a football straight, their kids will have the same potential that they always did.

It all comes down to cash, players who were not offered a new deal at L2 Bradford City went straight into the Scottish PL as "starters"....

I've been thinking about this, and I believe part of the problem may be a weird psychological issue caused by the media. Kids interested in the game are pelted with the idea that there are only two teams worth bothering about in Scotland, and that playing for anyone else is a pointless waste of time. Coupled with the insistence of Sky and the BBC that the EPL is the mutts nuts and you've got generations growing up who think our players at both club and national level are useless.

It's almost tedious sticking up for Scottish football, but I'll happily point out Steven Naismith, Craig Bryson, Alan MacGregor, Darren Fletcher, Steven Fletcher, Alan Hutton, Steven Whittaker, Russel Martin, Ikechi Anya, Shaun Maloney (who I always think is Irish), Stevie May and Ryan Gauld as some cracking players we've exported in recent years. I'm expecting big things from young Jack Harper in the future as well.

Fortunately, we now seem to be nurturing some genuine talent at youth level, thanks mainly to clubs like Dundee Utd, Hearts, Aberdeen and Kilmarnock, who invested in youth a decade ago, with results starting to appear now.

I find it almost painful to type this, but Rangers could have genuinely revolutionised football in Scotland, had they done the sensible thing and looked to return to the top flight with a crop of youngsters, rather than poaching talent from other SPL sides. It may have taken longer to get to the top, but they'd have done it the right way and perhaps left a positive legacy for the national side. As it is, they're up the swanny financially, again, and I suspect their second demise will be met with even less sympathy than the first.
 

AndyRM

XOXO
Location
North Shields
I'll tell you what's wrong with one Scottish goalkeeper. My wife absolutely hates this guy. He was staying with his family at the same Majorca hotel as us not long after he'd retired but was best remembered as being Scotland's national keeper. Each morning, people would hang around the locked sun beds as they were unlocked at 8.30 every day. Well I don't lounge around the pool, I'm out running or on long bike rides so my wife goes down and collects her sun bed and chooses her position. Well my wife is 4' 10" tall and weighs less than seven stones while Mr. International is a huge unit but her size didn't stop the keeper from actually knocking her over off her feet and then he STEPPED OVER HER without a word of apology!

We always had a huge amount of dislike for him after that and his idiot wife thought she was some kind of WAG as she lay out all day every day with no sun cream and her skin went the most vivid red unhealthy colour imaginable. Well she wanted a tan but despite not having suitable skin, she was going back to Escosse as tanned as she possibly could. She'll be paying for that now, I would imagine. A bigger pair of objectionable aerosols (Sp) it would be harder to find.

Sounds like one of the two Andy Goram's?
 

deptfordmarmoset

Full time tea drinker
Location
Armonmy Way
While I'm struggling to get really interested in England v San Marinade, it is nice to see that Danny Welbeck has had a big injection of confidence since his move to Arsenal.
 
Blimey! I sit down to a lazy evening of TV viewing, and the bloody best option is 'live' football: Scotland v Georgia.

Mind you, Scotland are doing well:9 mins gone and they haven't conceded a goal. ;)

I am making do with listening it on the radio, just arrived at our holiday destination on the west coast and settled down with a beer to listen. Now half an hour gone and not conceded...GOOOOOOOOOOAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAALLLLLLLLLLLLLLL!!!!!!!!!
 

rich p

ridiculous old lush
Location
Brighton
I am making do with listening it on the radio, just arrived at our holiday destination on the west coast and settled down with a beer to listen. Now half an hour gone and not conceded...GOOOOOOOOOOAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAALLLLLLLLLLLLLLL!!!!!!!!!
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN
GGGGGGGGGGGGGGOOOOOOOOOOOOOAAAAAAAAAAAAAALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL:tongue:
 
And what's with Ginger Strachan?

He's gone all blond. :laugh:

http://www.scotsman.com/news/odd/has-scotland-boss-gordon-strachan-dyed-his-hair-1-3048074

and I like this little gem: Taylor Ferguson, a hairdresser who has cut Strachan’s hair in the past, said: “When he was with Celtic, Gordon came in a few times. When red hair ages it goes a nice golden colour and the more grey white you get, the less striking warmth and red in the hair. You go more blond
 
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