The Football.....

[MarkF]

[QUOTE 3140196, member: 30090"]Suarez did not outplay anyone. Just took his chances when they came.[/QUOTE]

Suarez and Cavani worked their socks off, the movement was superb, it's not just "taking chances", look at the first goal again.

 

[MarkF]

[QUOTE 3140217, member: 30090"]I have thanks, Suarez chances that Jaggo will not play for the offside trap and heads the ball into the net.[/QUOTE]

That was just the ending.....

 

[Andrew_P]

Pity Suarez will be in Madrid next year eh?

 

[Archie_tect]

Too much expectation on England so it was an uphill task which they almost pulled off. Enough missed chances on both sides so probably fair result.

 

[MarkF]

[QUOTE 3140225, member: 30090"]No it was not, if Jaggo holds the line then Suarez is offside. Poor play by England.[/QUOTE]

Yes it was, the end of move full of intelligence & movement from Cavani & Suarez, making picking up a loose ball in the centre circle and manipulating a goal whilst being outnumbered, look easy.

 

[RedRider]

[QUOTE 3140215, member: 30090"]I disagree, this was down to England's lack of shape, of which they suffered with all night and were the sole reasons for the two goals.

Patrick V had it right last night on the Beeb, it will be how each team plays without the ball.[/QUOTE]
It was also down to England players being hassled and harried off their game (when they had the ball). It was an extraordinary , energetic 15 minutes. Reminded me of Liverpool's intense 15 minute game-winning efforts last season.

 

[MarkF]

[QUOTE 3140240, member: 30090"]No it was not, for reasons I've mentioned.[/QUOTE]

The "reasons" were just "ifs".

 

[gavgav]

Now that rubbish from England is over for another 4 yrs I can get back to enjoying the best World Cup since Italia 90!!

 

[Pro Tour Punditry]

You ain't that sharp in midfield or up front either

 

[simon the viking]

[QUOTE 3140273, member: 30090"]Agreed, but this had nothing to do with the goals. Defensively we're ****e and were all over the place for both goals.[/QUOTE]
Which is what I said just in a more sarcastic manner...........................

 

[swee'pea99]

So much negativity! Ok, we lost. Again. The best teams lose. And we're not 'the best'. No-one ever pretended we were. But they played their hearts out, and on another day, could have won either or both games. And there was more than just endeavour and heart, there was real skill and vision too. I've seen some abject England displays over the years, god knows, but neither tonight nor Italy was among them. They lost. shoot happens. But I really don't understand the abuse. I don't think England will ever win the World Cup. All I ask is that we give a good account of ourselves and lose with honour. And I think we did.

Oh, and lest we forget, they should have played 3/4 of the game with 10 men. That might have shaken things up a bit...

 

[slowmotion]

Watch out on the roads tomorrow morning. The male motoring public seems to suffer from a massive collective hangover every time this four-yearly event occurs.

 

[simon the viking]

[QUOTE 3140283, member: 30090"]You sure? I don't recall, something about Prima Donnas, 200% outplayed and some other stuff.[/QUOTE]
yes... I did........ I think if you add prima donnas + outplayed it equals defensively S**T and all over the place....
The Premiership is one of of the richest leagues in the world and we cant even pick a home grown team from it that can

A:. keep goals out
B: get on the end of crosses like suarez did tonight (and Lineker did in 86 and 90)
and when we used to get a free kick anywhere near the box... we used to have Pearce, Shearer and Beckham who seemed to be able to hit them right.....

 

[MarkF]

[QUOTE 3140271, member: 30090"]You think a team not holding their shape is an ''if''?[/QUOTE]

I don't care, I am not English.

 

[simon the viking]

Still on football but away from the world cup this made me smile..... (I don't know why exactly though it just did)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/27923035

I think Doncater may get quite a lot of teenage girls wearing their kit