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ianrauk

Tattooed Beat Messiah
Location
Rides Ti2
Haven't you got a bike to clean or something :cursing: lol


All done mate thank you :thumbsup::cheers:
 

MarkF

Guru
Location
Yorkshire
Season ahead is looking very bleak though. With the Goons and Oligarchs banging goals in for fun i can see us getting left further and further behind.

I thought Southampton were the better football team, but money talks, Man U still have special players to dig them out of a hole, they'll have to buy a few more in January!

I stand by what I said before, I have no idea what Moyes has done to deserve that job, squillions spent on Fellaini should have had alarm bells ringing all over OT.
 

deptfordmarmoset

Full time tea drinker
Location
Armonmy Way
I thought Southampton were the better football team, but money talks, Man U still have special players to dig them out of a hole, they'll have to buy a few more in January!

I stand by what I said before, I have no idea what Moyes has done to deserve that job, squillions spent on Fellaini should have had alarm bells ringing all over OT.
I haven't seen the game but DM has lost the team, the results show that. Plus, of course, at least one statement about MU's lack of potential CL winners, that really can't have helped.
 

MarkF

Guru
Location
Yorkshire
I haven't seen the game but DM has lost the team, the results show that. Plus, of course, at least one statement about MU's lack of potential CL winners, that really can't have helped.

I don't know pal, it's a tough job, team needing strengthening and all, but Fellaini! He's a Moyes/Everton type of player not a Man U one, no way would Chelsea, Arsenal, Man City or even Spurs, have forked out such a fee for a big lump, as a marquee summer signing it sent out all the wrong signals.
 

Risex4

Dropped by the autobus
I don't know pal, it's a tough job, team needing strengthening and all, but Fellaini! He's a Moyes/Everton type of player not a Man U one, no way would Chelsea, Arsenal, Man City or even Spurs, have forked out such a fee for a big lump, as a marquee summer signing it sent out all the wrong signals.

The problem is that the Moyes/Everton type of player is now the Man U type of player. The playing philosophy exhibited on the pitch belongs to the manager, not the club. To believe that just because a club - even one as big as United - has played and been successful by playing a certain way in the past guarantees that style in the future regardless of management changes is just naive. United fans everywhere need to forget about what United was; the never-say-die, the go-for-the-throat, the kitchen-sink. Moyes is a conservative manager - perhaps borne out of his years trying to get the Toffs to compete - and while the Glaziers stick with Moyes, the Utd fans will have to stick with the likes of Flannely.

The thing is, given time and United's resources Moyes will in all probability find some level of success at OT in a Mourinho-esque style. The questions are a) will United fans give that time and b) will they accept a style so at odds to what they've become accustomed too? Will they be happy singing that they are the pride of all Europe and the cock of the north while playing out 1-0 wins?
 

deptfordmarmoset

Full time tea drinker
Location
Armonmy Way
The problem is that the Moyes/Everton type of player is now the Man U type of player. The playing philosophy exhibited on the pitch belongs to the manager, not the club. To believe that just because a club - even one as big as United - has played and been successful by playing a certain way in the past guarantees that style in the future regardless of management changes is just naive. United fans everywhere need to forget about what United was; the never-say-die, the go-for-the-throat, the kitchen-sink. Moyes is a conservative manager - perhaps borne out of his years trying to get the Toffs to compete - and while the Glaziers stick with Moyes, the Utd fans will have to stick with the likes of Flannely.

The thing is, given time and United's resources Moyes will in all probability find some level of success at OT in a Mourinho-esque style. The questions are a) will United fans give that time and b) will they accept a style so at odds to what they've become accustomed too? Will they be happy singing that they are the pride of all Europe and the cock of the north while playing out 1-0 wins?
I agree with nearly all of that. However, MU fans would be happy with any wins right now.
 

mark st1

Plastic Manc
Location
Leafy Berkshire
I agree with nearly all of that. However, MU fans would be happy with any wins right now.

Agreed.

I stand by what i previously said Moyes sets out not to lose games as far as he i can tell he seems to think its a good acceptable result if Utd dont lose. He needs to buy an attacking midfielder in the Fabregas,Mata,Scholes mold who can open up defenses. There was talk of funds to be spent in excess of 100 million so lets see the $$$. Cleverly Welbeck Nani Young have all had a fair crack of the whip not performed and imo shouldn't be wearing the shirt again.
 

rich p

ridiculous old lush
Location
Brighton
Man U job was a poisoned chalice IMO. They've been running on fumes from Ferguson's wine breath for a couple of years and it wasn't going to much to see them slip down the table. The writing was on the wall when they had to drag Scholes back out, Giggs still got the gig and one-trick ponies like Ashley Young got in the side.
Moyes may not be the man for the job but anyone would have struggled with the rump of a once-good team.
 

swee'pea99

Legendary Member
I think Wilshere's first is probably the best Arsenal team goal I've seen since the days of Henry. Which is to say, the best team goal since the days of Henry.
 
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