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Inertia

I feel like I could... TAKE ON THE WORLD!!
Don't agree with that. He's not being punished because of who he is, his punishments have incrementally increased because he refuses to learn from his mistakes.
he isn't according to the FAs own panel

" However the panel appointed by the FA to decide on Suarez's case said that it considered his latest indiscretion in isolation."
 

Inertia

I feel like I could... TAKE ON THE WORLD!!
He's been given a 10 match ban but four of those games are fairly meaningless,possibly apart from the Merseyside derby. LFC are not going for a European place and the best they will finish is sixth and the worst looks like seventh. Whether or not he played in those last four games of the season isn't going to make a scrap of difference to the club.

I think the FA are right to give him the length of ban they have done, four meaningless games at the end of the season and six games at the start of the new season.
That only works if you believe any of that actually factored into the decision making process. :biggrin:
 

Inertia

I feel like I could... TAKE ON THE WORLD!!
If they considered it in isolation, why would they have increased his punishment?
That's a reason for increasing the punishment and I agree with his punishment.

What's your reason for believing they are lying about their reasons.
 

AndyRM

XOXO
Location
North Shields
That's a reason for increasing the punishment and I agree with his punishment.

What's your reason for believing they are lying about their reasons.

I'm not sure I understand your first point; are you saying that the reason for an increased punishment is because he has previous?

To address the second, I don't particularly trust any football organisation. Why would anyone? At the top end in any country, I believe that the authorities are a self serving set of fools.

Out of interest, are you a Liverpool fan? I'm not trying to have a go (this is a cycling forum after all!) just wondering where your view-point is coming from.
 

Inertia

I feel like I could... TAKE ON THE WORLD!!
I'm not sure I understand your first point; are you saying that the reason for an increased punishment is because he has previous?

To address the second, I don't particularly trust any football organisation. Why would anyone? At the top end in any country, I believe that the authorities are a self serving set of fools.

Out of interest, are you a Liverpool fan? I'm not trying to have a go (this is a cycling forum after all!) just wondering where your view-point is coming from.
I think it would be a reason to increase his punishment that I would agree with. The FA are saying that isn't their reason though and the only reason to disbelieve them so far is that they are serial liars.

I don't trust them either but that doesn't mean I automatically disbelieve everything they say.

I want more consistency in their decisions but it didn't look like they will change anytime soon.

I am a Liverpool fan but I consider myself fair enough that it's not affecting my viewpoint in this instance. After all I agree with the punishment, I just don't agree with their reasons though. If they had said what you have, that it's a cumulative punishment it would make more sense.
 

deptfordmarmoset

Full time tea drinker
Location
Armonmy Way
Shouldn't the process match the way courts work? Judged on the evidence without prejudice - ''in isolation'' - but ''sentenced'' taking previous offences into account.
 

AndyRM

XOXO
Location
North Shields
I think it would be a reason to increase his punishment that I would agree with. The FA are saying that isn't their reason though and the only reason to disbelieve them so far is that they are serial liars.

I don't trust them either but that doesn't mean I automatically disbelieve everything they say.

I want more consistency in their decisions but it didn't look like they will change anytime soon.

I am a Liverpool fan but I consider myself fair enough that it's not affecting my viewpoint in this instance. After all I agree with the punishment, I just don't agree with their reasons though. If they had said what you have, that it's a cumulative punishment it would make more sense.

We appear to have started off in vague disagreement, but have been on the same wavelength!

It must be very frustrating to have a player of Suarez's quality, who doesn't appear capable of screwing the nut.

I would wish you luck this afternoon, but the majority of my friends are of a Newcastle persuasion so that would seem dis-ingenuous. Although my sister-in-law's boyfriend is a Liverpool fan and has her hooked accordingly so I'd like them to be able to enjoy their day too. What a dilemma!

For my sins, I am a Kilmarnock fan. I am hoping that we batter Aberdeen to restore some faith after the train-wreck which has been our previous month.
 

Inertia

I feel like I could... TAKE ON THE WORLD!!
We appear to have started off in vague disagreement, but have been on the same wavelength!
That does seem to be the case :-D I blame the FA.
It must be very frustrating to have a player of Suarez's quality, who doesn't appear capable of screwing the nut.
Indeed, Ive actually gone off football for a few years now but still follow it, Ive found you cant just turn off support.

I would wish you luck this afternoon, but the majority of my friends are of a Newcastle persuasion so that would seem dis-ingenuous. Although my sister-in-law's boyfriend is a Liverpool fan and has her hooked accordingly so I'd like them to be able to enjoy their day too. What a dilemma!

For my sins, I am a Kilmarnock fan. I am hoping that we batter Aberdeen to restore some faith after the train-wreck which has been our previous month.
hah, that you want to wish me luck is enough so thanks for that :-). I however can wish you good luck though as I have no connection to Aberdeen :thumbsup:
 

mark st1

Plastic Manc
Location
Leafy Berkshire
I thought the length of the ban was harsh. 6 would have sufficed imo which is double what he would normally get for what he was charged with. Im just glad unlike with the Evra incident his club seem to have handled it a little better. Just hope his team mates dont adorn there "support for Suarez" t-shirts tomorrow.
 

ianrauk

Tattooed Beat Messiah
Location
Rides Ti2
Brentford get a last minute penalty that could have meant promotion. But the player hit the post, ball bounces back out, Doncaster take to other end of pich and score to go up as champions........ MAD
 

mark st1

Plastic Manc
Location
Leafy Berkshire
Brentford get a last minute penalty that could have meant promotion. But the player hit the post, ball bounces back out, Doncaster take to other end of pich and score to go up as champions........ MAD

Paul Walsh looked like he was going to be sick (dont know if he has an affiliation to Brentford) Apparently the penalty sinner was causing a ruccas and demanding to take it bet he feels pretty poo right now.
 
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