The Football.....

[Kies]

I'm getting rather excited about us v Real !!!
Come on boys!!!

Sky sports news showing SAF signing autographs at the players entrance ...... Have stood there many times waiting for the players

 

[on the road]

Surely though, Wigan's luck will run out.

Every year, they are rubbish until March/April then sneak clear of relegation.

For this, Martinez is seen as a footballing genius and spends every summer being offered all the best jobs around (I believe he turned down Liverpool, despite Rogers doing much better with Swansea) before returning to another rubbish season with Wigan.

I've nothing against Martinez - seems a nice enough chap.

Wigan I feel have overstayed their welcome in the Premier League

Interesting to look at the crowds - most pretty much as expected.

http://www.worldfootball.net/zuschauer/eng-premier-league-2012-2013/1/

Newcastle seriously underperforming and Sunderland and Villa as well

Swansea and WBA overperforming

Martinez didn't turn Liverpool down, FSG were always going to go for Rodgers and they were using Martinez as kidology to get the fans to accept Rodgers. No Liverpool fan wanted Martinez so when they went for Rodgers it seemed a relief that they didn't go for Martinez, half the fans that didn't want Rodgers either then accepted him after that.

 

[brodiej]

Martinez didn't turn Liverpool down, FSG were always going to go for Rodgers and they were using Martinez as kidology to get the fans to accept Rodgers. No Liverpool fan wanted Martinez so when they went for Rodgers it seemed a relief that they didn't go for Martinez, half the fans that didn't want Rodgers either then accepted him after that.

True, but I still think Martinez is seen as a bright young manager with a great record - he was also offered the Villa job.

He had some success at Swansea - I think a League 1 title - (although not as much as Rogers and Laudrup) but has been dismal at Wigan. I sometimes think his intelligence and affability mean people overestimate his ability.

 

[MarkF]

I just feel it would be nice if clubs had a level that depended on their income from fans

But debt level, £ per fan will surely favour Wigan over Man U? The fans don't really matter anyway, for most big PL clubs matchday income is small % of revenue.

Wigan's natural level was, like Wycombe / Yeovil / Fleetwood / Crawley and other traditional non-league teams promoted in the late 70s onwards in the 4th/3rd division until Dave Whelan splashed the cash. I think they are now in an artificial position - if Whelan left they would drop down to the 3rd or 4th again.

Wigan's level "was" is true, but now they have grown a proper fanbase, Championship is long term sustainable when they drop. The premier league is littered with clubs in an artificial positions, why pick on Wigan? Never mind, Swansea, Norwich, Reading, QPR and Fulham, even Man City and Chelsea are in "artificial" positions.

 

[Monsieur Remings]

I sincerely hope Man Utd can wipe the smile off the face of that arrogant prick Mourinho tonight.

Apart from anything it's always good when Franco Madrid lose anything. They've got a bit above themselves recently and I hope United can put them in their place; fascist club that they are.

Now, what's the Carlisle score?

 

[mark st1]

GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOAL

 

[mark st1]

WTF is that ref on

 

[Supersuperleeds]

WTF is that ref on

Red card all day long that

 

[mark st1]

Never in a million years ! He wasnt even looking the same way

 

[Spartak]

What a GOOOOAAAAAALLLLLL

Modric 1 - 1

 

[mark st1]

ffs.

 

[mark st1]

Gotta get Rooney on asap.

 

[Supersuperleeds]

Never in a million years ! He wasnt even looking the same way

Look at my name, I would yellow card them all as they walked onto the pitch for kick off

 

[Supersuperleeds]

Well done Ronaldo

 

[Spartak]

Ronaldo 2 -1