The Football.....

Page may contain affiliate links. Please see terms for details.

mark st1

Plastic Manc
Location
Leafy Berkshire
I think you underestimate him. Now he is walking away from Chelsea even if they sack him next week. That makes him just that little bit more likely to get the Madrid job.

And, yet again, Abramovich, Buck and Gourlay look like chumps. They sack managers without having a clue about the replacement, and when they sacked Di Matteo (who, in a move reminiscent of Stalin's doctoring of pictures has now been edited out of Chelsea's photographs of the Champions League win) they really did think that Guardiola would put his name to a contract. And then, lo and behold, they discovered that their choices were down to Benitez, Benitez and, er, Avram Grant.


To replace a very popular manager (Di matteo) with someone who has bitched about your club your fans etc in the press in a previous life is a new level of headstuckuppayourass even for your illustrious owner. Im waiting to find out who is going to be next though ?? Any ideas i keep hearing Mourinho this Mourinho that is he really that mad that he would return there ?
 

dellzeqq

pre-talced and mighty
Location
SW2
well, happily he's not my owner, but, no I don't think Mourinho will go to Chelsea. He's nailed on for Manchester United.
 

brodiej

Veteran
Location
Waindell,
well, happily he's not my owner, but, no I don't think Mourinho will go to Chelsea. He's nailed on for Manchester United.

I agree.

Why would Mourinho go back to a club that sacked him?

He always strikes me as someone who wants a new challenge with every job.

Following Ferguson at Man U with the same degree of success will be one of the toughest giggs around in European football
 

Inertia

I feel like I could... TAKE ON THE WORLD!!
I agree.

Why would Mourinho go back to a club that sacked him?

He always strikes me as someone who wants a new challenge with every job.

Following Ferguson at Man U with the same degree of success will be one of the toughest giggs around in European football
I respectfully disagree, I think Mourinho likes coming into a club and being the special one who made things happen.

Chelsea went from nothing to PL champions and a real force under him.
Inter won the champions league for the first time in a long time after fans had to watch their rivals win it several times under him.
He went to Real Madrid and broke Barcelona's dominance of the league by stopping them winning a 4th successive la liga title.

What can he do at Man Utd that hasn't been done? He can only follow Ferguson and be in his shadow there. Unless the Ferguson era ends in a big downturn I don't see the appeal for him. Maybe he will go there but I don't see it personally.
 

brodiej

Veteran
Location
Waindell,
I respectfully disagree, I think Mourinho likes coming into a club and being the special one who made things happen.

Chelsea went from nothing to PL champions and a real force under him.
Inter won the champions league for the first time in a long time after fans had to watch their rivals win it several times under him.
He went to Real Madrid and broke Barcelona's dominance of the league by stopping them winning a 4th successive la liga title.

What can he do at Man Utd that hasn't been done? He can only follow Ferguson and be in his shadow there. Unless the Ferguson era ends in a big downturn I don't see the appeal for him. Maybe he will go there but I don't see it personally.

I know what you mean - it's why I can't see him going back to Chelsea : he's been there and done that (apart from Champions League)

No top club in Europe has been so successful for so long with one manager as Man U, so I would argue the job of replacing Ferguson is a unique one.

I'm old enough to remember the string of people who failed to replace Matt Busby as Man UTD won nothing for years until Fergie starting winning stuff.

The only other alternative would be Man City in England - I can't see Mancini lasting too long and the owners will want someone to get them the Champions League
 

Kins

Über Member
Only two people I can see going to United are Moyes and Mourinho in that order despite all the other names banded about. I think Mourinho cares about the challenge and would relish just being in the spotlight with the weight of expectation on him. He's no shrinking violet as we have seen in the past. He is successful and wants to continue being successful. I hope he goes into national coaching next to bide his time for Alex retirement but doubt he will.
 

Inertia

I feel like I could... TAKE ON THE WORLD!!
I know what you mean - it's why I can't see him going back to Chelsea : he's been there and done that (apart from Champions League)

No top club in Europe has been so successful for so long with one manager as Man U, so I would argue the job of replacing Ferguson is a unique one.

I'm old enough to remember the string of people who failed to replace Matt Busby as Man UTD won nothing for years until Fergie starting winning stuff.

The only other alternative would be Man City in England - I can't see Mancini lasting too long and the owners will want someone to get them the Champions League
I agree re Chelsea, they were stupid to get rid of him the first time and I think going back would be a mistake. Like you say he has done that, going back can at best carry on what he did already and at worst tarnish what he achieved.

Mourinho likes to spend and City has the money but I don't think he is the kind of manager they want, too controversial and by they I mean the owners. Like I say it could be united, he says its going to be England next so they are the obvious choice, it just doesn't seem like his kind of gig. For a long time I always held out a hope he would go to Liverpool. On paper its his kind of job, turn things around and make them a successful club again. It wont happen though, we don't have the kind of money he wants, for that reason Id rule out Arsenal too, unless they promise money.
 

brodiej

Veteran
Location
Waindell,
I agree re Chelsea, they were stupid to get rid of him the first time and I think going back would be a mistake. Like you say he has done that, going back can at best carry on what he did already and at worst tarnish what he achieved.

Mourinho likes to spend and City has the money but I don't think he is the kind of manager they want, too controversial and by they I mean the owners. Like I say it could be united, he says its going to be England next so they are the obvious choice, it just doesn't seem like his kind of gig. For a long time I always held out a hope he would go to Liverpool. On paper its his kind of job, turn things around and make them a successful club again. It wont happen though, we don't have the kind of money he wants, for that reason Id rule out Arsenal too, unless they promise money.

It's tricky.

As a neutral, part of me thinks it would be good to see him at Liverpool trying to bring back the glory years. That would be a challenge for sure.

But I hope they stick with Rogers and trying a youth-based policy of building with a long-term goal.

I don't think he'd go for Arsenal because they go for long term youth development rather than buying players already matured - which is Mourinho's style.

It doesn't leave many teams left!
 

mark st1

Plastic Manc
Location
Leafy Berkshire
Im going for Guardiola to replace fergie. No idea on the Benitez replacement. I know "the special one" did very very well there however taking over a team with a blank cheque book isnt the hardest job in football he also had the best years from Lampard Terry Cole Drogba Czech etc. Times change though i think he will be a fool to go back there its set up for failure IMO.
 

brodiej

Veteran
Location
Waindell,
Im going for Guardiola to replace fergie. No idea on the Benitez replacement. I know "the special one" did very very well there however taking over a team with a blank cheque book isnt the hardest job in football he also had the best years from Lampard Terry Cole Drogba Czech etc. Times change though i think he will be a fool to go back there its set up for failure IMO.

I think Mourinho's done pretty well everywhere.

Guardiola is a much more unknown quantity. Brought up in the Barca tradition and just carried it on with players from the youth system.

He's never proved himself at a club which makes a lot of transfers (a la Chelsea / Madrid / Man City) or a club without a long established way of playing based on home grown youth team products - ie all clubs except Barca and, just possibly, Arsenal.

Interesting to see how he does in Germany. I'm not convinced he'll be able to manage the massive egos there like Robben etc
 

mark st1

Plastic Manc
Location
Leafy Berkshire
The jury's still out on how good Guardiola is, surely? I reckon I could manage Barcelona with a team that included Messi, Iniesta, Xavi etc

Hence why he is fulfilling his apprenticeship at Bayern ;). And i also would have agreed with you about anyone could manage the Barca team but did you see them the other night against Madrid ? And in the Champions League against Milan woeful to say the least.
 
Top Bottom