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[Monsieur Remings]

Well, 'Arry likes both the limelight and the cash, and no longer has the credibility to get a job with one of the top clubs. He'd be a good short term appointment, he has as much ability to motivate players as anyone in the game and would be a good choicen as a firefighter.

Fair points and I hope you're right.

 

[User482]

Well, 'Arry likes both the limelight and the cash, and no longer has the credibility to get a job with one of the top clubs. He'd be a good short term appointment, he has as much ability to motivate players as anyone in the game and would be a good choicen as a firefighter.

He showed at Spurs that he's good at getting under performing players to lift their game. As for his credibility, he was sacked because of a falling out with the chairman rather than performances on the pitch, surely?

Anyway, a solid start for the Irons this year. I still can't warm to big fat Sam though.

 

[Smokin Joe]

He showed at Spurs that he's good at getting under performing players to lift their game. As for his credibility, he was sacked because of a falling out with the chairman rather than performances on the pitch, surely?

Anyway, a solid start for the Irons this year. I still can't warm to big fat Sam though.

By credibility I meant his commitment to whatever club he happens to be at, that and coming across as a complete spiv during his court case, despite the fact that he walked free. Looking round at comments from Spurs fans after he was sacked there were few tears shed, which is unusual considering he took them from relegation candidates to CL quarter finalists. His blatant pursuit of the England job while still managing Tottenham turned most fans against him.

Looking back at his previous clubs he doesn't seem to have left many feelings of warmth behind him at any of them.

 

[User482]

By credibility I meant his commitment to whatever club he happens to be at, that and coming across as a complete spiv during his court case, despite the fact that he walked free. Looking round at comments from Spurs fans after he was sacked there were few tears shed, which is unusual considering he took them from relegation candidates to CL quarter finalists. His blatant pursuit of the England job while still managing Tottenham turned most fans against him.

Looking back at his previous clubs he doesn't seem to have left many feelings of warmth behind him at any of them.

I see what you mean. Opinion amongst fans was divided at West Ham, IIRC. Mind you, considering we've had two relegations since he left, I'd say the grass wasn't greener...

 

[Smokin Joe]

I see what you mean. Opinion amongst fans was divided at West Ham, IIRC. Mind you, considering we've had two relegations since he left, I'd say the grass wasn't greener...

I think 'Arry probably had some genuine loyalty towards West Ham as it was his club as a player and he's a local lad anyway. Moving around a few clubs and becoming the tabloids darling turned his head a bit and he started believing his own publicity.

BTW, My earlier post about West Ham topping the PL on fouls committed was not a joke, they had the stats on MoTD2 Sunday night!

 

[Ron-da-Valli]

Another good win for Stanley. Their away form as far better than home!! "On Stanley On"

 

[on the road]

He showed at Spurs that he's good at getting under performing players to lift their game. As for his credibility, he was sacked because of a falling out with the chairman rather than performances on the pitch, surely?

Anyway, a solid start for the Irons this year. I still can't warm to big fat Sam though.

That's true and even though he was found 'not guilty' but as they say, mud sticks.

 

[bof]

'arry's real crime was the slump in form that took us from 3rd way clear of Arsenal with a chance of 2nd if one of the Mancs slipped up, to scrabbling 4th. He didn't rotate some clearly jaded players and made poor subs. I think if Chelsea hadn't taken the CL place, he'd probably have stayed a bit longer, though.

 

[dellzeqq]

I think Bof is right. Supporters are very fickle - I remember Gerard getting booed after his cup final own-goal, and Arsenal fans getting restive about Wenger - now they've both been re-instated in the Pantheon. Spurs supporters like Redknapp well enough when they looked as if the might just catch the top two.

All of which must give Hughes hope. String three wins together and salvation beckons. It's just not going to happen.

(edit) Fernandes has given Hughes The Vote of Confidence. Time to get the holiday brochures out! http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2012/oct/02/mark-hughes-tony-fernandes-qpr

 

[PaulB]

I think Bof is right. Supporters are very fickle - I remember Gerard getting booed after his cup final own-goal,

Much as I respect a lot of what you write on here, that stands not too far off your recent laughable defence of the indefensible with you actually supporting the human toilet, Kelvin MacKhazie. The cup final you refer to here was a League Cup final and it was in the year Steven Gerrard inspired a Liverpool come-back to win the European Cup so as much as it is absolutely inconceivable his fellow supporters would boo him, it's daft to claim you remember it happened. It didn't. I was there and there was nothing but tremendous sympathy from even the bad wools we get at our games.

 

[Cheshire Celt]

What a fantastic result for Celtic tonight in the champions league beat Moscow. 3-2

 

[dellzeqq]

Much as I respect a lot of what you write on here, that stands not too far off your recent laughable defence of the indefensible with you actually supporting the human toilet, Kelvin MacKhazie. The cup final you refer to here was a League Cup final and it was in the year Steven Gerrard inspired a Liverpool come-back to win the European Cup so as much as it is absolutely inconceivable his fellow supporters would boo him, it's daft to claim you remember it happened. It didn't. I was there and there was nothing but tremendous sympathy from even the bad wools we get at our games.

I've never supported MacKenzie. In fact I've not bought the Sun since they moved to Wapping.

As for Gerard - he scored an own goal, he was booed and some Liverpool supporters claimed that he was looking for a way out to Chelsea. I stand to be corrected, but I think he handed in a transfer request. Weeks later he was the risen Christ again - but that is what football supporters are like.

In fact - he did hand in a transfer request following a £32M bid and a Liverpool fan talking on 606 said that 'Gerrard had scored his first goal for Chelsea'.

 

[PaulB]

I've never supported MacKenzie. In fact I've not bought the Sun since they moved to Wapping.

As for Gerard - he scored an own goal, he was booed and some Liverpool supporters claimed that he was looking for a way out to Chelsea. I stand to be corrected, but I think he handed in a transfer request. Weeks later he was the risen Christ again - but that is what football supporters are like.

In fact - he did hand in a transfer request following a £32M bid and a Liverpool fan talking on 606 said that 'Gerrard had scored his first goal for Chelsea'.

Yes you have supported MacKahzie; you said you believed he wasn't the pariah he has been proven to be because he was merely reporting the information provided to him by the SYP. I'm not going to be pedantic and trawl this out for you but you most certainly did. I can only assume you got the lies about Liverpool fans booing Gerrard from that same source, as it NEVER happened, regardless of your assertions otherwise.

I wrote before and I'll write it again; it is INCONCEIVABLE he was booed by Liverpool fans in February of 2005 because he 'handed in a transfer request'. The League Cup final was in February, the European Cup Final at the end of May but you're claiming the Liverpool fans were so mystic, they knew in so much advance that they booed him approximately 12 weeks before the thing you are keen to condemn him for? It's too ridiculous for words.

You are right to be prepared to stand to be corrected but on this, as on the MacKahzie thing, you are very wrong.

And the 'Liverpool fan talking on 606' was a WUM, as most of these muppets are but to think he must represent all Liverpool fans is a sad indictment of your thought processes where the Hillsborough disaster is concerned. Seriously, stick to the solid ground of the stuff you know about as you're on a three-way loser here.

 

[dellzeqq]

1. hands in transfer request
2. scores own goal
3. not popular
4. wins European cup
5. decides to stay
6. walks on water

(we'll skip the nightclub in Southport thing)

and if you can work out how to use the search engine provided by Cycle Chat, you can read my two posts on McKenzie for yourself. Now get some sleep.

 

[Accy cyclist]

Our match tonight against Rotherham was called off two minutes before kick off, due to a waterlogged pitch.