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A chum has bought one and as for German efficiency I find it hard to believe it cannot do 30mpg at any point. I would have to go back 30yrs to find a car I owned that could not do that at some point.
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Aye, you need deep pockets to run one. Mind you, you'd get to the cashpoint quickly.
Brings to mind Clarkson's purchase of the Ford GT and it's dismal14-18mpg meaning that he had to refuel constantly.
This is why I love EVs. Our much larger Electric SUV, that is just as fast, costs the equivalent of 120mpg to refuel, thats even with higher electricity costs.
Hence it gets used for everything, why wouldn't you when its so cheap to run
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Mrs D's EV cost nearly 60 grand in the spec she wanted.
Whereas my planet killing SUV was free.
A helluva lot now, or a little bit over time...? I'll be able to drive for decades, perhaps centuries at the mileage I do, at 32-42 MPG before I get anywhere near the cost of the Polestar, so the expense is all relative.
Whereas my planet killing SUV was free.
A helluva lot now, or a little bit over time...? I'll be able to drive for decades, perhaps centuries at the mileage I do, at 32-42 MPG before I get anywhere near the cost of the Polestar, so the expense is all relative.
Regardless of petrol, diesel or Electric most NEW SUVs cost around £60k+. The initial cost of our Model X was actually the same as a diesel Q7.
Clearly most people don't buy brand new cars, but if no one did where would the second hand car market come from?
Whats interesting is because our electric SUV is so cheap to maintain/own I cannot see us ever selling it. Not buying a new car every 3 years (like I use to) is actually a great money saver in the longterm. We will be keeping our one for at least a decade, its coming up to been 5 years old come March 2022, so time does fly when you are having fun
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Absoluteamundo. My SUV is so cheap to run compared compared to the purchase price of an EV I shall probably keep it until the wheels fall off.
You're right, saving so much money is hilarious fun.
Anywah, back to proper SUVs, mine is in horrendous need of a clean, as is the Polestar. Winter salt, nearby builders who cant be arsed to hose their vehicles off before getting the road have all conspired to leafe both looking very sorry for themselves.
That being the case ive set Saturday mirning aside to give them both a clean, and a bit of a dose of spray wax as I leather them off. I'll do the Volvo first so that if my enthusiasm wanes and I run out of steam then its the Tamiya car that says dirty while the real car gets cleaned. To he fair, I quite enjoy it so will likely get both done. Cup of tea, radio quietly on, a not unpleasant way to spend a few hours.
You're right, saving so much money is hilarious fun.
Anywah, back to proper SUVs, mine is in horrendous need of a clean, as is the Polestar. Winter salt, nearby builders who cant be arsed to hose their vehicles off before getting the road have all conspired to leafe both looking very sorry for themselves.
That being the case ive set Saturday mirning aside to give them both a clean, and a bit of a dose of spray wax as I leather them off. I'll do the Volvo first so that if my enthusiasm wanes and I run out of steam then its the Tamiya car that says dirty while the real car gets cleaned. To he fair, I quite enjoy it so will likely get both done. Cup of tea, radio quietly on, a not unpleasant way to spend a few hours.
Doesn't that depend on the future availability of Diesel? In an economy rapidly going to battery, there will be a tipping point where production of consumer Diesel decreases and cost of making it rapidly rises. Not yet, but perhaps quicker than we think. At what point does filling your car at 30-40mpg become unsustainable? My crappy Renault costs £80 to fill up at the moment. That's £160 a month or almost 2k per year on Diesel. That's already feeling expensive o me. Plus the £1000 or so every 2-3 years for maintenance.
Home charging a really big BEV is likely to cost <> £10 at the moment.
Fuel is not going to disappear of the edge of cliff anytime soon. It just won’t! The whole idea of the ban is that in the fullness of time , gradually these older cars will be gone as they slowly get replaced by EVs. Prices of used cars have gone skywards, waiting times for new cars have increased. Nope diesel and petrol is here for long time yet !
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Diesel wont be going anywhere for decades, perhaps centuries. Lorries, ships, military vehicles, diesel will still be freely available long after I'm gone, never mind long after nature finally reclaims my car.
The whole battery powered thing loses efficiency with scale, and even if it didn't there arent enough rare earth metals to replace all ICE cars 1:1 with an electric one, never mind everything else that burns diesel.
While oil is still coming out the ground - and it will until every last drop has gone because raw chemical stock, plastics and fertilisers have to come from somewhere - someone will want to burn it. I'm totally confident that i'll have no issues with SUV juice availability during my remaining ownership.
The whole battery powered thing loses efficiency with scale, and even if it didn't there arent enough rare earth metals to replace all ICE cars 1:1 with an electric one, never mind everything else that burns diesel.
While oil is still coming out the ground - and it will until every last drop has gone because raw chemical stock, plastics and fertilisers have to come from somewhere - someone will want to burn it. I'm totally confident that i'll have no issues with SUV juice availability during my remaining ownership.
That article refers to the next two decades !! Remember hybrids have even an extended life before banned from new. I really don’t think anyone needs to worry and rush out now and buy an electric car .
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You need you form a picture in your mind of me in my armchair, feet up, completely and utterly not remotely concerned in the slightest.
There are two hopes of it becoming unavailable in my lifetime, and one of those is Bob. Inceed, I think brown outs and electricity shortages are far more likely, but thats a discussion you can start a thread on elsewhere besause this thread is for large SUV owners to discuss their cars, not economics, geopolitics or potential commercial outcomes.
There are two hopes of it becoming unavailable in my lifetime, and one of those is Bob. Inceed, I think brown outs and electricity shortages are far more likely, but thats a discussion you can start a thread on elsewhere besause this thread is for large SUV owners to discuss their cars, not economics, geopolitics or potential commercial outcomes.
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