The CycleChat Helmet Debate Thread

[ufkacbln]

Me - I sit on the fence!

 

[summerdays]

There was an interesting post about someone's dad having a bike accident, which resulted in him ending up in hospital with a concussion. The medical experts at the hospital were of the opinion that the helmet saved the guy from being far more seriously hurt, or killed. I tend to listen to what medical experts have to say on the subject.

Would you also believe a medical expert who said the reverse?

 

[totallyfixed]

Compulsion in the pro peleton fueled a greater take up in Sunday riders.

Or as David Millar put it recently, FKW's.

 

[Racing roadkill]

Would you also believe a medical expert who said the reverse?

Nope, if a medical expert said the reverse, I'd assume they were a vet.

 

[summerdays]

Nope, if a medical expert said the reverse, I'd assume they were a vet.

So it is because they are saying what you want to hear that you will listen to one but not the other?

 

[snorri]

I haven't seen anybody here saying "you should wear a helmet", or people pushing their "helmet wearing" on others,

There can only be two possibilities, you have not been here for very long, or you are able to exercise a form of selective blindness.

 

[Racing roadkill]

So it is because they are saying what you want to hear that you will listen to one but not the other?

No, it's more down to the fact that I've only heard the anti / it makes no difference / it makes things worse, from medical professionals, who in my opinion, should be scrutinised a bit more closely by the ethics committee lot. I haven't encountered that point of view, from the vast majority of the medics I've had dealings with, and on the very rare occasions I have, I'd have classified the individual as deluded / nutter / someone who should find another vocation.

 

[Poacher]

No, it's more down to the fact that I've only heard the anti / it makes no difference / it makes things worse, from medical professionals, who in my opinion, should be scrutinised a bit more closely by the ethics committee lot. I haven't encountered that point of view, from the vast majority of the medics I've had dealings with, and on the very rare occasions I have, I'd have classified the individual as deluded / nutter / someone who should find another vocation.

Well, that's me convinced, then.

 

[srw]

Me too.

Me three (or is it me seven by now?)

 

[MontyVeda]

No, it's more down to the fact that I've only heard the anti / it makes no difference / it makes things worse, from medical professionals, who in my opinion, should be scrutinised a bit more closely by the ethics committee lot. I haven't encountered that point of view, from the vast majority of the medics I've had dealings with, and on the very rare occasions I have, I'd have classified the individual as deluded / nutter / someone who should find another vocation.

so it really is a 'yes' to @summerdays question.

 

[ufkacbln]

Would you also believe a medical expert who said the reverse?

That has been answered

He would be a "refusenik" who isn't worth listening to and has no right to voice that opinion


It's really a bit like the Daily Mail

People read it because it reinforces their personal agenda, and any other news source is dismissed in the same way

 

[ufkacbln]

No, it's more down to the fact that I've only heard the anti / it makes no difference / it makes things worse, from medical professionals, who in my opinion, should be scrutinised a bit more closely by the ethics committee lot. I haven't encountered that point of view, from the vast majority of the medics I've had dealings with, and on the very rare occasions I have, I'd have classified the individual as deluded / nutter / someone who should find another vocation.

This is beginning to go beyond simple bias and becoming almost bigotry

 

[Mugshot]

This is beginning to go beyond simple bias and becoming almost bigotry

Remarkably polite.

 

[ufkacbln]

The whole point about the debate is that there is no "correct" answer and the important thing is that whatever you choose then the choice MUST be an informed one

Read the evidence, make up your own mind on its strengths weaknesses and validity weigh up what you want to do and then do it

The danger is when fanatics try and close the debate by trying to silence any opinion that does not agree with theirs

 

[MontyVeda]

... whatever you choose then the choice MUST be an informed one

...

I disagree... people can wear whatever type of hat they like and needn't bother doing any research to influence their choice.

I tend to wear a thick fleece hat in the winter and a thin cotton hat in the summer. If i do slip on the ice and bang my head, I have a feeling the thicker fleecy hat will protect me from a bump or graze more than my thinner summer hat would... but that's not the reason i wear a thicker hat in winter, I wear it because it's warm and cosy