The CycleChat Helmet Debate Thread

[mjr]

Sorry again if it's been covered in the thread, but just wondering if there's any data for head trauma in pro racing since helmets became mandatory. That should give a useful insight.

That's a too small population (at least at top level, only about 600 riders a year) with too few incidents to infer much and completely atypical of everyday cycling. Even then, the pro helmet compulsion had to be pushed through on the back of a tragedy by emotional argument and not data.

 

[EnPassant]

Read the thread, I did and I had the same basis of "common sense" to start with.

Mind you, I also had the "common sense" to read it all before plastering it with my opinion, no, it's not a small job, but what galls me is not that people cannot be asked to read it, but that they then expect their version of "common sense" to trump all that has gone before and assume everyone prior to them has none.

 

[Kevin Alexander]

Wow.

So when I wear mine I'm ok, and when I choose not to I'm a twat?

Nice.

Think my posts are clear enough that you shouldn't really need to ask that question....

 

[growingvegetables]

Well if I'm wrong I will happily accept that and keep riding with my helmet.

Your call. And I'll defend your right to choose.

Without ever describing you as a twat. Or any of the other abuse you're throwing around.

 

[Kevin Alexander]

Your call. And I'll defend your right to choose.

Without ever describing you as a twat. Or any of the other abuse you're throwing around.

Bravo

My choice how I describe people.

 

[Kevin Alexander]

Not really. Abusive posts will get you banned. Why not cut out the superfluous nasty stuff and debate like a grown-up?

Feel free to ban me if I can't use the term twat. - MODS Be my guest.

Mod note: Several people have reported this post (for which, thanks), but this has now been dealt with. We didn't bother deleting all the posts relevant to this - thought that several people pointing out the unacceptability of his behaviour was more useful than deleting a whole swathe of posts.

 

[ianrauk]

Bravo

My choice how I describe people.

Do you call those who do not wear a plastic hat twats to their faces in the real world? I guess not.

 

[growingvegetables]

Bravo

My choice how I describe people.

Nope.

 

[Kevin Alexander]

Do you call those who do not wear a plastic hat twats to their faces in the real world? I guess not.

Quite happily would if I spoke to them.

Why you one of them? You going to come up to Scotland with Accy to twat me

 

[Kevin Alexander]

Odd how the anger in this issue is almost universally one way.

Ive got no anger.

 

[EnPassant]

Odd how the anger in this issue is almost universally one way.

I was just thinking something along the same lines. Though more that the arguments on one side were generally, if not quite universally, more cogently put than those from the other. Odd.

 

[EnPassant]

Ive got no anger.

Possibly not, but if you insist on calling people twats for holding a different view than your own, you will definitely invoke some anger and cannot really be surprised if people think you also are displaying some.

 

[potsy]

Really? Your describing those of us who don't wear helmets as twats suggests otherwise.

Maybe it's a term of endearment where he comes from?

 

[Kevin Alexander]

Maybe it's a term of endearment where he comes from?

Better than a glasgow kiss haha

 

[Kevin Alexander]

Shouldn't that be Glasgae?

haha viewer of Rab C perhaps