The comparative size of cars

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mustang1

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London, UK
There is a reason why not everyone has a Smart car - because you can't fit your family and luggage in it! Cars are like houses - everyone wants more room, and they tend to base their needs on what they might need rather than what they actually use day to day. It is interesting to look at the big American cars though - they built them huge and then they got a bit smaller. Almost as if there is a sweet spot between having a huge impractical car, and having a not so big but more practical car. Only down to a point though, as many you see (even in the UK now) are SUV type things or at least "family" sized ones like a Ford Focus

But!....this is how we buy bikes, basing needs on what they might need. That tasty dual Sus MTB looks nice and I need to buy it because I might become an expert MTBer one day. :smile:
 

Drago

Legendary Member
I loved my Smart. It was in many ways so wrong, yet so right.

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presta

Guru
Yup. I'm 6'4" and drive a Skoda Citigo most of the time. Fits me fine.
Cars I can fit in:
Mini
Hillman Imp
Viva
TR7 (Only just)
Mk4 Cortina
Renault 21

Cars I don't fit in:
Rover 2000
Mk5 Cortina
Granada
Renault 25

It's for better outcomes in the event of a crash.
The safest feature of a car like that is that if I don't fit in it I won't be driving it in the first place, but if you want a seat belt to do its job you need enough space for the belt to pull taut before you hit whatever's in front of you.

I wouldn't have been able to get my feet on the pedals if I'd been driving the Focus I was in last week, and the top of the windscreen was too low to see out properly. The problem with cars these days isn't fundamentally a lack of space, it's a lack of consideration for minorities.
 

Drago

Legendary Member
Cars I can fit in:
Mini
Hillman Imp
Viva
TR7 (Only just)
Mk4 Cortina
Renault 21

Cars I don't fit in:
Rover 2000
Mk5 Cortina
Granada
Renault 25


The safest feature of a car like that is that if I don't fit in it I won't be driving it in the first place, but if you want a seat belt to do its job you need enough space for the belt to pull taut before you hit whatever's in front of you.

I wouldn't have been able to get my feet on the pedals if I'd been driving the Focus I was in last week, and the top of the windscreen was too low to see out properly. The problem with cars these days isn't fundamentally a lack of space, it's a lack of consideration for minorities.

That's interesting, as I'm the same height and had a Rover 3500 which was the same shell as the Rover 2000 and fitted just fine.

I don't fit in an MX5 with the roof up due my height, or with the doors closed because of my width.
 
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Jody

Stubborn git
The safest feature of a car like that is that if I don't fit in it I won't be driving it in the first place, but if you want a seat belt to do its job you need enough space for the belt to pull taut before you hit whatever's in front of you.

I wouldn't have been able to get my feet on the pedals if I'd been driving the Focus I was in last week, and the top of the windscreen was too low to see out properly. The problem with cars these days isn't fundamentally a lack of space, it's a lack of consideration for minorities.

That's from a tall persons perspective.

As a rule, it's the smaller front seat occupants that come off worst in a crash because they are so near to the bulkhead and steering column. Moving the seating backwards increases the survival space. Cabins may be more snug but that also comes from increasing safety.

If anything, they are looking out for the minorities
 

Drago

Legendary Member
Seat belts will pretension in a collision, they won't wait for pma body to move forward before locking.
 
As far as room inside is concerned - I am confused by people buying an SUV type car because it has more room

when I have looked at some of them the actual space inside is about the same
and in some cases the level area in the boot is not that much - more height but you generally don;t use the height

and even if you load the thing up - in an accident or emergency stop anything above the top of the seat becomes a missile heading for the back of the head of the passengers!!

One of the best thing I have seen was a car where the rear seat had 3 positions so you could have it right back for lots of leg room - middle for normal use and right forward for less leg room but more boot spaces

can't remember which car it was though




as for garages in houses - seems to me that the standard width has not changed since the 1960s
and I remember my Dad - who always kept his car in the garage - having trouble getting in an out at times, especially with a 2 door capri that had especially long doors!
with today's cars - I just can;t see them as being designed for cars to use!
 
Just a shame they were made so poorly. Rust buckets and terrible mechanicals.

I always wanted one as a young man, but their poor reputation put me off. When I was able to afford one my interest had waned.

Always puzzled me

they made a great off road car (so I'm told) that was also a great luxury car
but made it with terrible rust resistance and made it unreliable

typical of them at the time
 

presta

Guru
it's the smaller front seat occupants that come off worst in a crash because they are so near to the bulkhead and steering column.

They have to be, or they can't reach the pedals and steering wheel.

That's interesting, as I'm the same height and had a Rover 3500 which was the same hell as the Rover 2000 and fitted just fine.

My only experience of one was a brief ride in a mates with my knees jammed against the glovebox. I thought the seat was right back, but perhaps not. (Mk4 & Mk5 Cortinas use the same body shell, the problem with the Mk5 was that deeper seats and thicker headlining reduced the headroom.)

Cabins may be more snug but that also comes from increasing safety.

If anything, they are looking out for the minorities

Making cabins smaller isn't really increasing safety, it's just excluding taller people.

Seat belts will pretension in a collision, they won't wait for pma body to move forward before locking.

Seat belts don't stop your legs from flailing.

As far as room inside is concerned - I am confused by people buying an SUV type car because it has more room

when I have looked at some of them the actual space inside is about the same

One of the best thing I have seen was a car where the rear seat had 3 positions so you could have it right back for lots of leg room - middle for normal use and right forward for less leg room but more boot spaces

When I was on the verge of giving up driving because I couldn't find one with enough headroom, a salesman suggested an SUV, but the one I tried had no more room than the saloons.

On later versions of my Accord you could fold half the rear seat back down, and make room for large luggage items to protrude from the boot into the cabin.
 
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