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Badger_Boom

Veteran
Location
York
I certainly know about Swales Yard, it used to be open as a pub called 'The Counting House'
I've been in it a few times, out of archaeological interest

Sadly now, its dereliction is getting worse:angry:

2005 - 2007??
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2013
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The rear facade is even worse!!:cursing:
April 2020

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A complicated story as I understand it from the owner (the same chap who restored it in the first place). He leased it long term to a pub chain who have a reputation for scrimping on maintenance. That coupled with Ponte being a bit of a rough place for a night out took its toll on the building, and they eventually closed it. They also decided not to terminate their lease (presumably to save money), and refused the owner access to make repairs.

After a while the local council decided to step in and try to ‘save’ it by using their powers to take entry, and installing scaffolding upstairs (!) to support the roof. They seem to have taken against both parties in the original dispute, and refused access to all apart from grudgingly allowing a structural survey for the owner which disagreed with their assessment of the roof, and pointed out that their scaffolding was doing more harm than good. Their response was to consider CPO although I think this idea was sensibly allowed to wither.

I‘m not sure what’s happening at the moment, and I dare say covid has taken its toll by preventing any work from taking place. Fingers crossed it gets some better treatment soon.

I agree it’s a real shame as it’s a fantastic building. Many years ago I was one of the team who recorded the fabric before it was restored. It was a very atmospheric place.
 

Mr Celine

Discordian
Roadside trig point on B6436, Wester Softlaw, Roxburghshire.

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@Badger_Boom
Apologies, l've only just seen this
I'd like to read more about the surveying


There's a house not too far from me that is of a similar age and was allowed to deteriorate
Now it's combined into a new build & thus saved, but some of the character has been lost
'Catch 22'

EDIT @ 10:24

https://britishlistedbuildings.co.uk/101253748-hanson-house-farm-normanton#.YLyUDYWSnIU

'As Was'
(possibly 2005 -2006?)

Normanton. Hanson House. 1.jpg Normanton. Hanson House. 2.jpg


This is how it looks now, the older section is to the rear, at a right angle
https://www.rightmove.co.uk/properties/42051362#/


There's also 'Hill House Farm' on Wakefield Road; https://britishlistedbuildings.co.uk/101261642-hill-house-farmhouse-normanton#.YLyVaIWSnIU
(with 'DF Reynolds Garage' to the rear)
 
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Badger_Boom

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Location
York
@Badger_Boom
Apologies, l've only just seen this
I'd like to read more about the surveying


There's a house not too far from me that is of a similar age and was allowed to deteriorate
Now it's combined into a new build & thus saved, but some of the character has been lost
'Catch 22'

EDIT @ 10:24

https://britishlistedbuildings.co.uk/101253748-hanson-house-farm-normanton#.YLyUDYWSnIU

'As Was'
(possibly 2005 -2006?)

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This is how it looks now, the older section is to the rear, at a right angle
https://www.rightmove.co.uk/properties/42051362#/


There's also 'Hill House Farm' on Wakefield Road; https://britishlistedbuildings.co.uk/101261642-hill-house-farmhouse-normanton#.YLyVaIWSnIU
(with 'DF Reynolds Garage' to the rear)
The survey results and documentary research were published by the Pontefract and Distract Archaeological Society in the early 90s and still available on their website. Hanson House Farm looks pretty interesting; that bit of West Yorkshire doesn’t have many timber framed or half timbered rural houses surviving.

There used to be a spectacular one on Newstead Lane just east of Havercroft which was demolished in the early 80s because of mining subsidence, leaving only its name on the map (Newstead Hall) and a modern bungalow.

EDIT: I take it back, Newstead Hall wasn’t timber framed, but it was spectacular.
 
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The survey results and documentary research were published by the Pontefract and Distract Archaeological Society in the early 90s and still available on their website. Hanson House Farm looks pretty interesting; that bit of West Yorkshire doesn’t have many timber framed or half timbered rural houses surviving.
I've got the Hermitage booklet, & have seen the Swales Yard book, as it is (or was) in Pontefract Library

There used to be a spectacular one on Newstead Lane just east of Havercroft which was demolished in the early 80s because of mining subsidence, leaving only its name on the map (Newstead Hall) and a modern bungalow.

EDIT: I take it back, Newstead Hall wasn’t timber framed, but it was spectacular.
I know of that too, many years ago the 'Wakefield Express' featured a local historic building a week, & it was one of them
This turned into a 2 volume compendium book


This is a cracking book, I keep thinking about buying a copy, as I've loaned it from Rothwell Library inumerable times!!

Amazon product ASIN 0117011940View: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Rural-Houses-Yorkshire-1400-1830-Supplementary/dp/0117011940
 

Badger_Boom

Veteran
Location
York
I've got the Hermitage booklet, & have seen the Swales Yard book, as it is (or was) in Pontefract Library


I know of that too, many years ago the 'Wakefield Express' featured a local historic building a week, & it was one of them
This turned into a 2 volume compendium book


This is a cracking book, I keep thinking about buying a copy, as I've loaned it from Rothwell Library inumerable times!!

Amazon product ASIN 0117011940View: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Rural-Houses-Yorkshire-1400-1830-Supplementary/dp/0117011940
Way ahead of you there, I bought both volumes a couple of years ago. There’s some interesting stuff in them.
 
 

Poacher

Gravitationally challenged member
Location
Nottingham
Another partial ghost sign in Nottingham; more precisely Mapperley top. As far as I can make it out, it's for Judges Household Store, but I suspect they ran a lucrative sideline in corrective lenses for double vision. Close to (about 50m E of) Mapperley War Memorial.
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This one always appealed to my infantile sense of humour; frontage of a former barbers' shop in Sneinton.
It's been a domestic property for many years, but the occupants have had the good sense to maintain the original bay window signage.
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