The Armstrong Lie

[Louch]

betsy is innocent

Need to change your name on here to tug betsy. His big turn on the front was after they got married, he finished about 130th in the tour and contract wasn't renewed. She went after lance for his celebrity in my opinion. And as the wife of a drug using cyclist,she isn't innocent.

 

[ufkacbln]

neither is she. She kept quiet until Frankie lost his contract. She didn't mind his epo use when the cheques where falling through the door. Team sky have right approach, all those involved in doping have no innocence,

I agree to a certain extent, but this is again where we need to be careful.

She claims to have been innocent and believed his declarations that he was clean, she found that he doped in 1999, but after her intervention was clean in 2000... whic led to his break with Armstrong and USPS. SHe also claims that she started talking to David Walsh after Frankie's 1999 confession to her

IF that is true then that is another vote in her favour

However how much is spin and hype?

 

[Pro Tour Punditry]

I'm 100% sure that Betsy's stance has nothing to do with spin and hype.

 

[Louch]

I'm 100% sure that Betsy's stance has nothing to do with spin and hype.

What do you believe her motives where?

 

[ufkacbln]

I'm 100% sure that Betsy's stance has nothing to do with spin and hype.

It has to be.....

She is using to spin and hype to get credibility and hence validate her stance, and evidence

The Armstrong camp is using spin and hyped to discredit her and hence invalidate her stance and evidence

As above make up your own minds, and it appears that you have

 

[tug benson]

What do you believe her motives where?

Lance being a dick and trying to ruin innocent people?

 

[tug benson]

Need to change your name on here to tug betsy. His big turn on the front was after they got married, he finished about 130th in the tour and contract wasn't renewed. She went after lance for his celebrity in my opinion. And as the wife of a drug using cyclist,she isn't innocent.

was he ever going to win the tour in a team with Lance armstrong?


for he celebrity, all he done was ruin her life, she could have walked away but she didnt and am glad she never

 

[Louch]

Who was he ruining before la confidential?

 

[tug benson]

Anybody that got in his way...stop being naive

 

[Louch]

And I disagree re running her life, she wouldn't be a fraction as famous without her Armstrong connections. She has done very nicely from it all. You have to take the American obsession with becoming a celebrity into consideration when considering their actions. she didn't do it as a crusader, she started the fight, Armstrong had more power.

 

[Louch]

Anybody that got in his way...stop being naive

name names then? I'm not sayi g I know everything on the subject, but I don't know of anyone before that he ruined in your eyes.

 

[Louch]

No nAmes come to mind to share then?

 

[Louch]

You don't think she enjoys the celebrity she has ? She certainly seems far more keen to be involved in discussing it than Frankie who in any interview I have seem comes across really forced.

 

[Pro Tour Punditry]

Betsy Andrea did not set out to be famous.
And if you don't know who Armstrong ruined then you will have little credibility in a thread where you try to defend him without knowing these things.

 

[Louch]

I know who who he went after after the accusations where made against him.

I have asked for who he ruined before hand. No names are being given.

Betsy loved the celebrity she gained,Walsh even discusses in his book how giddy she got giving him the inside scoop.he fuelled that and got what he wanted.

Why did betsy, Walsh and kimmage not focus attention on anyone bar Armstrong in their selfless quest to free cycling from drug abuse? Because no one cared about any other cyclist at that time in the English speaking world .