Team BKool CycleChat

[Milzy]

I can keep more power up hill. My semi compact was spinning out at times. Yes Craig, should have tried to attack on the hill but I couldn’t take it easy on the way back down.

 

[Barbes66]

I can keep more power up hill. My semi compact was spinning out at times. Yes Craig, should have tried to attack on the hill but I couldn’t take it easy on the way back down.

You put down some power just before the top and took me by surprise and once you were on the descent it was damage limitation. Those video only rides are tricky as sometimes you lose the place if you look away for a second or two.

 

[Milzy]

You put down some power just before the top and took me by surprise and once you were on the descent it was damage limitation. Those video only rides are tricky as sometimes you lose the place if you look away for a second or two.

I’ve never done a down hill event before, shame it makes it short. It was a classic Tadej Poggi move.

 

[Brusgaard]

I’ve never done a down hill event before, shame it makes it short. It was a classic Tadej Poggi move.

Just have to choose a longer downhill section next time, and if possible something below (or is it above?) -8% to not have fatties like me run out of gears. If you are running your NEO powered, I turned it off as that gave just a bit more of resistance.

 

[berty bassett]

Just have to choose a longer downhill section next time, and if possible something below (or is it above?) -8% to not have fatties like me run out of gears. If you are running your NEO powered, I turned it off as that gave just a bit more of resistance.

never thought of doing that , I cannot get any power going down hill , can be in the gear 53- 10 and pedalling hard as I can but still it appears I am waiting for a gust of wind to blow me down the hill a bit further - not just a bkool thing , I think it was the same in zwift , rouvy has a max speed ( but you reach it quicker if larger), indievelo puts the brakes on going round corners so you have to be aware and I think rgt used to use all sorts of things to slow you down including crash protection, I think it evens itself out if there is variety and courses -with a big downhill then returning up the same hill would be interesting tactics

 

[Brusgaard]

never thought of doing that , I cannot get any power going down hill , can be in the gear 53- 10 and pedalling hard as I can but still it appears I am waiting for a gust of wind to blow me down the hill a bit further - not just a bkool thing , I think it was the same in zwift , rouvy has a max speed ( but you reach it quicker if larger), indievelo puts the brakes on going round corners so you have to be aware and I think rgt used to use all sorts of things to slow you down including crash protection, I think it evens itself out if there is variety and courses -with a big downhill then returning up the same hill would be interesting tactics

I have said it before, but I don’t think it works like that. I would never be able to keep the lightweights behind me on a long uphill. Even the short no-so-much uphill section today, they pretty quickly came closer, and Craig also caught up with Adam on that same section. 66 vs 71 vs 93 kg is never gonna be “fair” when doing long uphill or downhill. Gravity WILL take anyone to the bottom at some point even if just pedaling lightly.

On Zwift you would continue in the supertuck position as long as the gradient was -3%. You would also have to be at 50kph before you went to supertuck. They changed it a bit earlier this year, so you now also have to be at the front of a group (or solo) for it to kick in.
On MyWhoosh you tuck regardless of steepness and speed and also continue into the flat in the tuck position, just slowly slowing down.

 

[shimceltic]

Since i moved from the bkool pro2 to neo2t downhills are hard work as otjers have said. 100 rpm in hardest gear and no resistance.
Glad milzy managed to get in a race

 

[Milzy]

Since i moved from the bkool pro2 to neo2t downhills are hard work as otjers have said. 100 rpm in hardest gear and no resistance.
Glad milzy managed to get in a race

It was a bit of a nightmare trying to pedal down at times I ended up just cruising zone 2. I’m 71kg these days with less power than a few years back. I can get the legs looking chiseled but weak power, not just lack of riding it’s getting older too.

 

[berty bassett]

I have said it before, but I don’t think it works like that. I would never be able to keep the lightweights behind me on a long uphill. Even the short no-so-much uphill section today, they pretty quickly came closer, and Craig also caught up with Adam on that same section. 66 vs 76 vs 93 kg is never gonna be “fair” when doing long uphill or downhill. Gravity WILL take anyone to the bottom at some point even if just pedaling lightly.

On Zwift you would continue in the supertuck position as long as the gradient was -3%. You would also have to be at 50kph before you went to supertuck. They changed it a bit earlier this year, so you now also have to be at the front of a group (or solo) for it to kick in.
On MyWhoosh you tuck regardless of steepness and speed and also continue into the flat in the tuck position, just slowly slowing down.

so you dont think that a long down hill followed by the same uphill would be overall a good race ? or the other way round ? guessing it would end up being an itt but you dont think close ? I dont know bkool as well as you so a genuine question

 

[Brusgaard]

so you dont think that a long down hill followed by the same uphill would be overall a good race ? or the other way round ? guessing it would end up being an itt but you dont think close ? I dont know bkool as well as you so a genuine question

I can’t see you loosing 10 minutes on a 20 km -10% decent, but I would easily loose 10 minutes on a 10 km 10% climb to you. But you are also on a totally different fitness level than me. My 93 kg is 26.4% fat according to my smart scale.

A 20 km decent followed by 5 km reasonable uphill might work.

 

[shimceltic]

so you dont think that a long down hill followed by the same uphill would be overall a good race ? or the other way round ? guessing it would end up being an itt but you dont think close ? I dont know bkool as well as you so a genuine question

I don't think so, the time gaimed by heavier guys would be wiped out easily on a long climb

 

[shimceltic]

I can’t see you loosing 10 minutes on a 20 km -10% decent, but I would easily loose 10 minutes on a 10 km 10% climb to you. But you are also on a totally different fitness level than me. My 93 kg is 26.4% fat according to my smart scale.

A 20 km decent followed by 5 km reasonable uphill might work.

Food fat ratio, like a good quality rib eye 🥩

 

[Milzy]

I’m
Just wondering what next weeks course is so I can have a recce?

 

[Brusgaard]

I’m
Just wondering what next weeks course is so I can have a recce?

https://my.bkool.com/profile/detail/735487

 

[Milzy]

Can somebody for example do their favourite local 20 mile loop and add it to Bkool and the software generates the graphics? I’m thinking Bkool can do way more things than what people realise.