Team BKool CycleChat

[CXRAndy]

And built in power meter for the fraction of the cost of a TACX Neo (NOT!)

It makes my heavyweight Kickr look cheap as chips in comparison

 

[AAAC 76C]

I've not been able to watch any of it yet. Just been following it through the paper. Seems like Froomes got himself in a decent position though.

That he did but it's quite a sight to see a Classic's rider blowing away climbers on a 4 km wall, not to mention that his Team Leader looked troubled by his efforts as well.
Then again when doesn't Froome look troubled on a bike other than in a TT.

 

[AAAC 76C]

I reckon you could limit yourself to a couple of social events a year and still avoid divorce mate! But then I've ballsed up more than one relationship due to my own obsessive personality so I'm probably not the best person to offer advice...

It would be great to have you along one day though!

Addictive/limit, those words don't go together.
There is a very good reason why I buy single bottles of wine.

 

[theboxers]

That he did but it's quite a sight to see a Classic's rider blowing away climbers on a 4 km wall, not to mention that his Team Leader looked troubled by his efforts as well.
Then again when doesn't Froome look troubled on a bike other than in a TT.

That's the one thing I have always found amusing. Froome has, since I've been watching him, seemed laboured on the bike. It is when he looks like he's taking it easy that he appears to not be up to his normal standard. Although having said that Froome's lack lustre standard would beat 99.99% of racers.

 

[<Tommy>]

Addictive/limit, those words don't go together.
There is a very good reason why I buy single bottles of wine.

Yeah fair point, although to be fair one bottle seems to do the job for you anyhow

Like you say maybe when the government, or in my case my missus... lets you retire. You'll have a nice big hole in your schedule that cycling can help fill at least a little. And by that point we might even be able to keep up with you a little better, but I doubt it!

 

[<Tommy>]

That he did but it's quite a sight to see a Classic's rider blowing away climbers on a 4 km wall, not to mention that his Team Leader looked troubled by his efforts as well.
Then again when doesn't Froome look troubled on a bike other than in a TT.

From what I can gather from reading about it all the main contenders look a little cooked? Understandable I guess.

I just hope it doesn't turn into a procession. I'm off work officially for the next few days so hopefully I can catch a bit.

 

[bridgy]

I was being a little cheeky Paul. Bkool have managed to go from disadvantage of 'other' trainers to giving them off the planet superiority IE the Elite trainer.

Do you think they will be able to make a trainer which will be compatible with other Sim platforms and also be equal with their older trainers?

Based on their record to date, NO!!

I don't think the trainer is the problem though - it's the algorithms used for each trainer on within the SIM that's the problem.

It's not always been the case before now that Bkool favours its own trainers - I remember times in the past where some other makes of trainer had a big advantage going uphill, and remember people changing to a Bkool trainer and reporting a drop in their speed/watts too. They've just not done a great job of matching different trainer performance full stop!

As the new trainer has a built in power meter I assume it will be at a disadvantage to the Bkool Pro unless they update the way the Bkool Pro works with the software - because we all know the "watts" reported by the Pro are way too generous. (Albeit not quite as generous as for those ELITE trainers right now!)

 

[theboxers]

As the new trainer has a built in power meter I assume it will be at a disadvantage to the Bkool Pro unless they update the way the Bkool Pro works with the software - because we all know the "watts" reported by the Pro are way too generous. (Albeit not quite as generous as for those ELITE trainers right now!)

So that't how he does it!!! AAAC has a modded hybrid bkool pro/classic/elite trainer that ups the power just not quite as much as a full on elite .

bkool leveling the playing since 2012 (not that I'm complaining with my unbutchered classic )

 

[Whorty]

Better still, in true, Yobsville fashion, just let me know when your house is going to be empty and I'll pop over anyway.

The wife will be there with a rifle

 

[CXRAndy]

Robert Gesink-Pro rider uses Zwift hell of a lot, today he demonstrated how fast a pro rider can climb even when they are not trying flat out. He came passed me at 7 W/Kg and set the fastest segment of the morning. I looked up his record and posted a ride from yesterday where he averaged 238W for an 1.5hr ride. How hard he was working we'll never really know, he removed his heart rate. His speed was 23.5mph for the session, very much peleton cruise speed. These are numbers which most of us can emulate, maybe not at the same HR, accept AAAC

 

[bridgy]

Robert Gesink-Pro rider uses Zwift hell of a lot, today he demonstrated how fast a pro rider can climb even when they are not trying flat out. He came passed me at 7 W/Kg and set the fastest segment of the morning. I looked up his record and posted a ride from yesterday where he averaged 238W for an 1.5hr ride. How hard he was working we'll never really know, he removed his heart rate. His speed was 23.5mph for the session, very much peleton cruise speed. These are numbers which most of us can emulate, maybe not at the same HR, accept AAAC

Is he using a Bkool Pro?

 

[CXRAndy]

Is he using a Bkool Pro?

Not with those low average Watts

 

[bridgy]

Not with those low average Watts

So Zwift are also a bit crap at levelling the playing field between trainers?!

 

[CXRAndy]

His figures look normal for a workout with a rider coming back from an injury. He is reported to weigh 70kg so when he passed me at 7W/Kg @ 490Watts. These numbers are similar to those seen on tours with power, cadence and heart rate being displayed.

 

[CXRAndy]

Marcin Bialoblocki. Posted one of the fastest 25mile TT a few days ago with an average of 415 W

https://www.strava.com/activities/1143591904/overview

Regrettably it was disallowed because he rode too far out in the middle of the road, never the less impressive ride.