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Whorty

Gets free watts from the Atom ;)
Location
Wiltshire
So you are calling me a winner ? :hyper:
Yes on CG3. I was ahead by 2 secs with the finish in sight and the last 1-2% incline you flew past and I couldn't react fast enough. I dug in hard but just couldn't pull you back in. :notworthy: We are going to have some good battles in July my friend :okay: I wonder how kind @BILL S will be with the courses? Pan flat, or some hillier ones? :tongue:
 

Daddy Pig

Veteran
100% agree. Its much more satisfying knowing the other guy is burying himself vs you!
Especially beating @AAAC 76C, that victory would taste really sweet.... I just can't remember ever doing it!
 

bugno

Well-Known Member
Location
Copenhagen
You forget that it is good sportsmanship that would lead you to wait for the leader in cycling events, either through a technical or biological issue. Don't forget they were still 30km from the finish including a hard uphill and they actually attacked rather than stop/slow up. It's For that reason Nibali and Quintana can sod off IMO. There is no sportsmanship in professional football...

I am not forgetting sportsmanship but in that exact situation I had no problem with them attacking. Maybe the guy was sick, maybe he needed 20min to get on his bike again etc etc. Can't speculate all that after the fact when guys in the race have a million things to think about and a racing pulse. Can't really have a tea break to discuss.

Can't speculate any incident like this. It wasn't a simple mechanical issue or attacking in the feed zone etc.

(and the Schleck thing was a self inflicted mechanical ... why he chose that gear change 100-200m from the top must haunt him)
 

bugno

Well-Known Member
Location
Copenhagen
Yes on CG3. I was ahead by 2 secs with the finish in sight and the last 1-2% incline you flew past and I couldn't react fast enough. I dug in hard but just couldn't pull you back in. :notworthy: We are going to have some good battles in July my friend :okay: I wonder how kind @BILL S will be with the courses? Pan flat, or some hillier ones? :tongue:

Haha ... as predicted I was way behind you on CG5 ... and I went all out. You are way too fast for me :notworthy:

I can't do too many high intensity races now as I need to focus intensity training on running (half marathon coming up in Sept and aiming for under 2 hours for the first time since I was "young"). Will still ride but not +300W - it is way too hard.

Plus, anything with hills and I get dropped immediately. Unless it is downhill
 

<Tommy>

Illegitimi non carborundum
Location
Camden, London
I am not forgetting sportsmanship but in that exact situation I had no problem with them attacking. Maybe the guy was sick, maybe he needed 20min to get on his bike again etc etc. Can't speculate all that after the fact when guys in the race have a million things to think about and a racing pulse. Can't really have a tea break to discuss.

Can't speculate any incident like this. It wasn't a simple mechanical issue or attacking in the feed zone etc.

(and the Schleck thing was a self inflicted mechanical ... why he chose that gear change 100-200m from the top must haunt him)

I doubt it haunts him Bugno. He was awarded the GC that year when contador was stripped of it for failing a drugs test.

There are lots of examples of sportsmanship in the highest pressure situations. Some people are more capable of making good decisions under pressure than others I guess.
 

bugno

Well-Known Member
Location
Copenhagen
I doubt it haunts him Bugno. He was awarded the GC that year when contador was stripped of it for failing a drugs test.

There are lots of examples of sportsmanship in the highest pressure situations. Some people are more capable of making good decisions under pressure than others I guess.

My point is that when it is self inflicted ... all bets are off. Changing the front shifter uphill while standing up 100-200m from the top is bad bike handling.

It's not a flat tyre, a car that hits you, feeding zone etc.

Part of cycling is knowing how to handle your bike, knowing when to eat and drink and what to eat and drink etc.
 

Daddy Pig

Veteran
My point is that when it is self inflicted ... all bets are off. Changing the front shifter uphill while standing up 100-200m from the top is bad bike handling.

It's not a flat tyre, a car that hits you, feeding zone etc.

Part of cycling is knowing how to handle your bike, knowing when to eat and drink and what to eat and drink etc.
Giro d'Italia: Dumoulin shows his sporting side after Quintana crashes

Stage 15; Quintana crashed on a descent due to poor bike handling, and Dumoulin controlled the race so he could get back to the main group....
 

theboxers

TheBoxers on Cycle Sim sw
If you ever fancy an easy video ride (as I did tonight) with spectacular scenery I can recommend this - http://www.bkool.com/profile/detail/1800368?durationType=DISTANCE&lapCount=1

Makes me want to go on a cycling holiday to Norway!
Don't want, Just do it. I've been down that route twice, on a motorbike. The Lofoten Islands are stunning.

Be warned though Norway is a Loooong country, just look at a map. London to Edingburgh approx 416 miles, Oslo to Trondheim 493 approx 1/3 the length of Norway
 

<Tommy>

Illegitimi non carborundum
Location
Camden, London
Don't want, Just do it. I've been down that route twice, on a motorbike. The Lofoten Islands are stunning.

Be warned though Norway is a Loooong country, just look at a map. London to Edingburgh approx 416 miles, Oslo to Trondheim 493 approx 1/3 the length of Norway

Sounds like a great adventure though bud! Seeing a bit of Scandinavia is definitely on my to do list
 

<Tommy>

Illegitimi non carborundum
Location
Camden, London
My point is that when it is self inflicted ... all bets are off. Changing the front shifter uphill while standing up 100-200m from the top is bad bike handling.

It's not a flat tyre, a car that hits you, feeding zone etc.

Part of cycling is knowing how to handle your bike, knowing when to eat and drink and what to eat and drink etc.

I think we'll have to agree to disagree in this one Bugno! :smile:
 

berty bassett

Legendary Member
Location
I'boro
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there you go TT
 

AAAC 76C

Large Member
Location
LIVING THE DREAM
Especially beating @AAAC 76C, that victory would taste really sweet.... I just can't remember ever doing it!

A short memory you have DP.
You killed me in quite a few Stages last year, one I remember you Pep and Jacob dropping me.
Another time Bill saw us all off and I was left behind. There are more but generally on flat stages it was me hanging on to you.
 

AAAC 76C

Large Member
Location
LIVING THE DREAM
My point is that when it is self inflicted ... all bets are off. Changing the front shifter uphill while standing up 100-200m from the top is bad bike handling.

It's not a flat tyre, a car that hits you, feeding zone etc.

Part of cycling is knowing how to handle your bike, knowing when to eat and drink and what to eat and drink etc.

Bungo, it was a little more than a couple of hundred metres.
I remember the scenes of Schleck chasing back through the pack trying to get back.
Schleck was attacking at speed when his chain jumped and it was not down to a gear change.
He also panicked and struggled to reset his chain.
What was also a talking point is that Contador won the GC almost exactly by time he gained that day.

Who can forget Bradley Wiggins mechanical and bike parking itself as he angrily tossed it to one side.
He had been having problems with his electronic gears.
I cant remember the race but I do remember his protecting rider behind him knocking his rear derailleur with his front wheel earlier in the stage and so his problems may well have been a home goal.
It was Nibali that did not stop that day however I don't think Wiggins was the GC leader at the time.
 
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