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[classic33]

Maurice Wilson..
I admire the man for what he believed in and after what he suffered in WW1 and his travels and eventual demise, was it the 1935 expedition who found his body? he got pretty high for someone with no climbing experience, there was an old tent discovered at 8500m (?) which was thought to be his but most folk attributed it to the 'did it happen ? Russki expedition of 75?'
anyway, he surpassed expectations, sad thing was the reluctance of help from the Mountaineering establishment back in the UK, more likely as he wasn't one of the 'chaps'...
Having read and listened to an awful lot of Everest stuff, (Evereast) apparently George Everest pronounced his name as in the brackets, you only have to listen and read some of the s***e written etc about Everest....
There is video of the HF antenna breaking on their last take off, some present search stuff just looks shady...
That may tie in with the photo of them after being captured by the japs, one documentary took the photograph and said it was 99 per cent them..
It turned out it had been in a guide(?) book a couple of years before they flew...
I emptied my 'library' before I moved and donated them to a charity shop and kept some..
gave my climbing books to ex workmate..

That's the fella.
He went to prove everyone wrong, he could do what they said he couldn't, but there's the clear moneyed background that allowed for such behaviour clearly visible in the book. Starting off in a Boys Own style. Get past the way it starts and it could be a decent read. Found the following year as you say.
The "establishment" were against him trying to climb Everest and flying. Both still novelties back in the day, he managed the latter.
Think what may have set the establishment against him was his idea of crashing onto Everest, then walking to the summit before heading back down. Possibly not "the British way" of doing things, given he'd not flown at the time.
Video, from the 1940's!!
Some search stuff looks very dubious, not just the modern stuff. For what it's worth, I don't think they were captured by the Japanese. Secret mission or not. That the US navy were involved, ships in the area as contacts/beacons isn't in dispute. They used what was available to them, who wouldn't. Especially on a flight over the Pacific.
Ever feel like buying any of them back?
Climbing books, to yer ex workmate. You weren't planning on doing Everest were you...

 

[Bobby Mhor]

That's the fella.
He went to prove everyone wrong, he could do what they said he couldn't, but there's the clear moneyed background that allowed for such behaviour clearly visible in the book. Starting off in a Boys Own style. Get past the way it starts and it could be a decent read. Found the following year as you say.
The "establishment" were against him trying to climb Everest and flying. Both still novelties back in the day, he managed the latter.
Think what may have set the establishment against him was his idea of crashing onto Everest, then walking to the summit before heading back down. Possibly not "the British way" of doing things, given he'd not flown at the time.
Video, from the 1940's!!
Some search stuff looks very dubious, not just the modern stuff. For what it's worth, I don't think they were captured by the Japanese. Secret mission or not. That the US navy were involved, ships in the area as contacts/beacons isn't in dispute. They used what was available to them, who wouldn't. Especially on a flight over the Pacific.
Ever feel like buying any of them back?
Climbing books, to yer ex workmate. You weren't planning on doing Everest were you...

I've done Curved Ridge on the Buachaille...
The future Mrs M said no more ('79)..
A sensible decision....

Wilson had some kahunas to do what he did even just getting there..
crashing? so what is the difference now with fixed ladders and a fixed rope from Camp 4(?) to the top?
He just wasn't one of the chaps....just like the accusations of spying made against certain folk, 'Can't be, he's Camb/Oxon educated', the main suspects were known to be but...
look how Bl*** got away for so long without it being known.....

The problem was they relied more on HF frequencies whereas VHF (like nowadays) would have been heard within a fair radius of the waiting ship, a plane flew over the waiting ship but WX was misty.....most HF frequencies are useless in close contact...planes flying over say the UK are VHF and HF is once you are off into the Atlantic, navigation would have come into it....anyhow.. there's been accusations flying back and forth between some of the modern day hunts for them....

Think you get to know the chanty wrasslers when watch some Toob videos, a lot of written stuff is getting debunked now by folk crosschecking books etc...some folk have made good money misrepresenting what they and others have done.
One bloke said he was there when they found remains and it came out he'd gone down a camp and wasn't there, still tries to push his stuff..
I'm off to the Toob after cyclocross....

 

[classic33]

I've done Curved Ridge on the Buachaille...
The future Mrs M said no more ('79)..
A sensible decision....

Wilson had some kahunas to do what he did even just getting there..
crashing? so what is the difference now with fixed ladders and a fixed rope from Camp 4(?) to the top?
He just wasn't one of the chaps....just like the accusations of spying made against certain folk, 'Can't be, he's Camb/Oxon educated', the main suspects were known to be but...
look how Bl*** got away for so long without it being known.....

The problem was they relied more on HF frequencies whereas VHF (like nowadays) would have been heard within a fair radius of the waiting ship, a plane flew over the waiting ship but WX was misty.....most HF frequencies are useless in close contact...planes flying over say the UK are VHF and HF is once you are off into the Atlantic, navigation would have come into it....anyhow.. there's been accusations flying back and forth between some of the modern day hunts for them....

Think you get to know the chanty wrasslers when watch some Toob videos, a lot of written stuff is getting debunked now by folk crosschecking books etc...some folk have made good money misrepresenting what they and others have done.
One bloke said he was there when they found remains and it came out he'd gone down a camp and wasn't there, still tries to push his stuff..
I'm off to the Toob after cyclocross...

Good on you...
A grand mountain route and a smashing way to the summit of Stob Dearg’
A "me or the mountains" moment?
Nothing wrong with it.

Not saying he didn't, novel idea of making the climb shorter. Maybe I'm biased, him from Bradford me from neighbouring "Toffee Town".
Nothing new with ladders now though, and in ways no different to intending to do the last few hundred metres on foot.
The establishment closes ranks when threatened.

They went with what they had at the time. You're more clued up on radio usage more than me, so I'll bow to your practical expertise. I can only go by what I've read on the subject.
Bad weather continues to be a problem today, for similar sized aircraft. Trying to find an island/pinprick in the Pacific can't be easy.
Any idea what happened to the partial tailfin said to have been used on one of the graves?

Always wary of any "research" being done by anyone selling a book on it.
I've heard similar about being at a camp when bodies were found. Wonder if it were the same bloke.
Enjoy the cycling!

 

[Bobby Mhor]

Morning all
Chilly oot..
Got down to -3.9c but rising to the heady height of -1.9c just now and the sun is shining
Stay warm...

 

[classic33]

Morning all
Chilly oot..
Got down to -3.9c but rising to the heady height of -1.9c just now and the sun is shining
Stay warm...

Owdo
The roofs round here are kinda white looking, not snow...
You've tested the waters so to speak, deciding you're better off inside.
All wrapped up?
And yerself.

 

[Bobby Mhor]

Good on you...
A grand mountain route and a smashing way to the summit of Stob Dearg’
A "me or the mountains" moment?
Nothing wrong with it.

Not saying he didn't, novel idea of making the climb shorter. Maybe I'm biased, him from Bradford me from neighbouring "Toffee Town".
Nothing new with ladders now though, and in ways no different to intending to do the last few hundred metres on foot.
The establishment closes ranks when threatened.

They went with what they had at the time. You're more clued up on radio usage more than me, so I'll bow to your practical expertise. I can only go by what I've read on the subject.
Bad weather continues to be a problem today, for similar sized aircraft. Trying to find an island/pinprick in the Pacific can't be easy.
Any idea what happened to the partial tailfin said to have been used on one of the graves?

Always wary of any "research" being done by anyone selling a book on it.
I've heard similar about being at a camp when bodies were found. Wonder if it were the same bloke.
Enjoy the cycling!

No cycling today...

More a taster for future stuff but a high toll on life over the winter on the same mountain tempered my ambitions plus the wise words of Mrs M (to be).
I last stood on it's summit, 10 years ago..
Aircraft radio stuff eventually got worked out..
The usual 'this won't work' utter by some person in authority slowed the technology down.. see Hutton, J in geology
GPS makes a massive difference (and beacons), local one (on VLF) has been taken off the air (I must check)

Stories abound of bodies in strange places,
one Chinese expedition member said he saw an 'English' dead, 1975? which lead the 1999 into the area they found GLM but they thought it was Irvine they were looking for.
As you say too many theories have muddied any factual truths.. on any mystery.
What is strange is the drone footage taken by a Nat Geo expedition has not been released.
Go find this bloke on the Toob..
He blows a lot of so called facts and written works out of the water
HERE Link to his channel

 

[Bobby Mhor]

Owdo
The roofs round here are kinda white looking, not snow...
You've tested the waters so to speak, deciding you're better off inside.
All wrapped up?
And yerself.

Almost ready to venture out...
Shaved the old napper last night as well..
Rasta hat looked out.
Must fly, my pint awaits

 

[classic33]

No cycling today...

More a taster for future stuff but a high toll on life over the winter on the same mountain tempered my ambitions plus the wise words of Mrs M (to be).
I last stood on it's summit, 10 years ago..
Aircraft radio stuff eventually got worked out..
The usual 'this won't work' utter by some person in authority slowed the technology down.. see Hutton, J in geology
GPS makes a massive difference (and beacons), local one (on VLF) has been taken off the air (I must check)

Stories abound of bodies in strange places,
one Chinese expedition member said he saw an 'English' dead, 1975? which lead the 1999 into the area they found GLM but they thought it was Irvine they were looking for.
As you say too many theories have muddied any factual truths.. on any mystery.
What is strange is the drone footage taken by a Nat Geo expedition has not been released.
Go find this bloke on the Toob..
He blows a lot of so called facts and written works out of the water
HERE Link to his channel

You want to remain upright?

Of things that yet may be...
The mountains always seem to attract folk not prepared for what it'll be like higher up.
You've no plans to go back to the summit one day.
There's always someone who'll say it'll never work, it can't be done. We're lucky nowadays compared to say just thirty years ago.
Did you have time to check the local beacon?
If they all told the same story I doubt we'd be willing to believe them.
They might just be saving the footage for a pay to view program. They've done one or two already. Watched one, it wasn't worth watching, much less paying to watch.
I'll have a gander at it later.

 

[classic33]

Almost ready to venture out...
Shaved the old napper last night as well..
Rasta hat looked out.
Must fly, my pint awaits

Extra coat, check. Gloves, check. Hat(s), check...
Did you not believe the forecastors!
Hopefully you'll not be going flying.

 

[Bobby Mhor]

You want to remain upright?

Of things that yet may be...
The mountains always seem to attract folk not prepared for what it'll be like higher up.
You've no plans to go back to the summit one day.
There's always someone who'll say it'll never work, it can't be done. We're lucky nowadays compared to say just thirty years ago.
Did you have time to check the local beacon?
If they all told the same story I doubt we'd be willing to believe them.
They might just be saving the footage for a pay to view program. They've done one or two already. Watched one, it wasn't worth watching, much less paying to watch.
I'll have a gander at it later.

Nah, many happy memories of the hill..
Think with my state of health and fitness, a wee hill would be a struggle, yon Plantis thingy has put me off for good....
but who knows....

I haven't checked the beacon thing yet, been busy on other things after being out for ones brekkie....
Mrs M says one a week..
It's cyclable with ease....dunno where I'd keep the bike though....

Extra coat, check. Gloves, check. Hat(s), check...
Did you not believe the forecastors!
Hopefully you'll not be going flying.

No wind at all today, still as 'eck.
wind rose is at 1.1 kms....

TA-DA, badun tish !!!

Trendy or whit?

 

[classic33]

Nah, many happy memories of the hill..
Think with my state of health and fitness, a wee hill would be a struggle, yon Plantis thingy has put me off for good....
but who knows....

I haven't checked the beacon thing yet, been busy on other things after being out for ones brekkie....
Mrs M says one a week..
It's cyclable with ease....dunno where I'd keep the bike though....


No wind at all today, still as 'eck.
wind rose is at 1.1 kms....

TA-DA, badun tish !!!
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Trendy or whit?

The days spent getting there...
Yer've got yer bike keeping yer legs active in the meantime.
Never say Never.

Busy doing other things, I thought you'd pulled up the drawbridge and battened down the hatches whilst this latest spell o'weather were over.
Brekkie once a week! How're you expected to survive.
The bike thing, mountain or beacon?

None here either, maybe we'll get it all at once.

My eyes!
Is that to cut your lighting usage. You've a good chance of not losing sight of it in the dark.

 

[Bobby Mhor]

The days spent getting there...
Yer've got yer bike keeping yer legs active in the meantime.
Never say Never.

Busy doing other things, I thought you'd pulled up the drawbridge and battened down the hatches whilst this latest spell o'weather were over.
Brekkie once a week! How're you expected to survive.
The bike thing, mountain or beacon?

None here either, maybe we'll get it all at once.

My eyes!
Is that to cut your lighting usage. You've a good chance of not losing sight of it in the dark.

It makes a fair job of brightening up and hiding the mess that is the chair without it..
I've seen better in skips..
sadly not found anything close as comfy...
TV is mince tonight and tbh all nights...
I've put off buying some stuff with BF coming up and surprise , surprise the main one has gone up 3 quids before the big day...

No bike for a few days yet I think, minus 1.6c just now, car windscreen was solid this morning..

 

[classic33]

It makes a fair job of brightening up and hiding the mess that is the chair without it..
I've seen better in skips..
sadly not found anything close as comfy...
TV is mince tonight and tbh all nights...
I've put off buying some stuff with BF coming up and surprise , surprise the main one has gone up 3 quids before the big day...

No bike for a few days yet I think, minus 1.6c just now, car windscreen was solid this morning..

You've given up on getting your current seat recovered?
Certainly stands out, I'll give you that. Got yer sunglasses for daytime use.
They put less, and a different type of foam in the newer ones. Seems to be a year on year thing as well.
You're not into come dancing then.
Curry's has done similar this week, prices went up over the weekend. Older stock out on shelves.

A bit of pushing yourself would get you warmed up in next to no time.
Any snow up there yet?

 

[Bobby Mhor]

Morning everyone
Chilly oot..
almost minus 5c overnight (4.7)..
I better go scrape Mrs Ms chariot..
Brownie points

 

[Bobby Mhor]

You've given up on getting your current seat recovered?
Certainly stands out, I'll give you that. Got yer sunglasses for daytime use.
They put less, and a different type of foam in the newer ones. Seems to be a year on year thing as well.
You're not into come dancing then.
Curry's has done similar this week, prices went up over the weekend. Older stock out on shelves.

A bit of pushing yourself would get you warmed up in next to no time.
Any snow up there yet?

I have these reflective lens coatings or whatever its called...
saves me on sunspecs...
Dancing? I cringe at all that....
I folk getting all upset at the results being leaked occasionally...oh boy.
Think I may be in a crabbit frame of mind
I need my porridge...
I'm just going to avoid black Friday...and sleep all day